Klarinet Archive - Posting 000393.txt from 1997/06

From: "Dan Leeson: LEESON@-----.edu>
Subj: RE: Repetition, novelty & boredom (fka: RE: Mozart, K. 622: Oh No!!
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:49:22 -0400

> From: MX%"klarinet@-----.91
> Subj: RE: Repetition, novelty & boredom (fka: RE: Mozart, K. 622: Oh No!! Not again...)

> Craig:
>
> Come now. I quoted roughly half of your posting, and the remainder was
> obviously irrelevant to the issue. Maybe in some earlier posting you said
> something that should have alerted me to your meaning, but it sure escaped
> me if you did.
>
> In any event, where in Mozart's Concerto is the same music repeated FIVE
> TIMES in ten minutes? As far as I recall without checking the score, the
> only possible candidate is the rondo theme -- and I really wonder whether
> it is appropriate to improvise on that.
>
> Dan, if you read this, is it appropriate to improvise on that theme, and if
> so, where and how? It already has a lot of notes, and goes at a pretty
> fast clip, so it is unclear to me how you'd do this. TIA for your answer.

In the A theme of the final movement (two sixteenth pickups and next measure
with 3 8-ths and 6 16ths: this identical passage is heard at least
three times in the final movement and probably more. Wait, let me check"

1. m. 1
2. m. 114 (not exactly that way but close enough)
3. m. 247
4. m. 334

There is absolutely no reason why one cannot embellish the three (or
two) eighth notes of the them varying differently for the 2nd,
3rd, and 4th repetion.

The rest of the movement is full of opportunity for embellishment.
Look at the leaps of m. 243 and 244. It practically screams "Do
something here!!"

Examine m. 138: a lyrical theme just waiting to have interesting
things done to it. Mozart lays out a red carpet and says, "lets
see how smart and imaginative you are."

One would have to be made of stone to miss opportunities like this.
It is as if Microsoft were being offered to you at $2/share in
1974. Can't you see it is time to move?

>
> Gary Young
> Madison, Wisconsin
> ----------
> From: Craig E. Countryman[SMTP:cegc@-----.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 1997 1:48 PM
> To: klarinet@-----.us
> Subject: Re: Repetition, novelty & boredom (fka: RE: Mozart, K. 622: Oh
> No!! Not again...)
>
> I mean repeated five times over the period of ten minutes, as would be
> the reasonable conjuncture from my statements which you failed to quote.
>
> In any event, what does Mozart want? I think he wants improvisation...
>
> ----------------
> Craig Countryman
> cegc@-----.net
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Dan Leeson, Los Altos, California
Rosanne Leeson, Los Altos, California
leeson@-----.edu
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