Klarinet Archive - Posting 000879.txt from 1997/02

From: Holly Suzanne Jones <hjones1@-----.EDU>
Subj: Re: Upsetting situation
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:02:37 -0500

Thank you! I was just thinking the same thing!!!

holly

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On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Neil Leupold wrote:

> Rafe Tennenbaum wrote:
>
> > Since you've taken the liberty of doing so -- not, incidentally,
> > to your advantage -- let me say, and perhaps I'm speaking for other
> > members, that his point is very well-taken. For instance, you also
> > asked about recordings of the Rose Etudes. For all I know there may
> > be dozens of these (although I doubt it, since I don't believe record
> > companies in general are rushing to produce disks of unaccompanied
> > clarinet performances of pleasant-sounding exercises of virtually no
> > musical interest except as pedagogical studies) but the point is, if
> > you're having a hard time figuring out a phrase in Rose, why don't
> > you just ask your teacher about it?
>
> Where on earth is this close-minded attitude coming from? In the
> 4+ years that I've been a member of this list, I've never witnessed
> tolerance for such discriminatory and pejorative attacks on ANYBODY
> who has chosen to honor us with their presence and interest in clarinet
> performance and/or scholarship. I personally do not tolerate it now,
> which is why I post this response to the belittling diatribes which have
> been leveled at Kenneth Chin for asking honest, relevant questions in hopes
> of engaging in the usual considerate and erudite discourse which has
> characterized this forum over the years. If there is an element of
> intolerance on Klarinet, it is for elitest holier-than-thou bullsh*t
> such as that posted above. What kind of list would this be if we
> trivialized and censored the sincere inquiries made by those on the
> list who are less advanced or knowledgable than we? Why is anybody
> a member of this list in the first place if not to exercise the
> joyous freedom of posing whatever questions are on our minds and
> being shown gracefully and competently how we might overcome a
> particular difficulty...or enrich our understanding of clarinet
> literature and performance?
>
> It's nobody's business whether Kenneth Chin has a private teacher.
> It's none of your business whether or not he has stated his questions
> to somebody else, or whether or not he went to the library to research
> the subject before turning to the Klarinet forum for information and
> advice. Would any of you like to be treated with such disdain and
> contempt in response to one of your own sincere quests for greater
> knowledge and understanding? We have a remarkably broad base of
> accomplished and experienced practitioners of clarinet performance
> and scholarship on this forum, represented by members worldwide.
> The purpose of this wealth is not to sit on a pedestal and throw
> tomatoes at the masses, but to acknowledge one's own capacity for
> growth and understanding by passing your own gifts of knowledge
> onto others. If you don't have something to offer beyond
> destructive criticism of a given question or post, then don't
> respond to the question. We'll not get into the pattern of
> erecting barriers to relevant and enriching discourse on clarinet
> performance and scholarship, lest we lose more members in disgust
> at the disintegration of what has made this forum great for so long.
>
> Neil
>