Klarinet Archive - Posting 000531.txt from 1997/01
From: Mark Charette <charette@-----.com>
Subj: Re: I second your suggestion
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 17:25:21 -0500
ROBERT SALTIEL wrote:
>
> Hello Nancy,
>
> You wrote:
>
> AL> In the interest of better communication, not everyone has access
> AL> to the Web, therefore, a comment about looking for info at a Web
> AL> site is not very helpful. Sometimes it is better to just give
> AL> the sought-after answer.
>
> How very true! I would also question the wisdom of possible plans to
> convert Sneezy to frames-format. I too, do not have web access, or
> rather, not "real time" access. To ask for an address or phone number
> of a woodwind dealer and be referred to the website is wasteful and as
> you state, for some users, not of much use. Also when I was new to the
> list, I inquired about existence of any FAQ files and aside from being
> pointed to the Sneezy site (which _IS_ appropriate to do when one is
> looking for something as lengthy as a FAQ) was told that when the
> sneezy archive goes to frames format, that those who are not
> frames-capable would be "out of luck" (shiver, shudder!). (Actually,
> there are already some things on Sneezy that are frames-only, but
> still, much is not (yet) (thankfully!!)
Excuse me - please do just a BIT of research before inserting foot
in mouth. All frames have been REMOVED from sneezy, and if you'd have
had the courtesy to either visit the site or ask me, I would have told
you. There's been a note to that effect for well over a month on
the site. The frames version had been online for over 6 months,
which is why I question just about everything you've just stated.
Also, when the site HAD frames, I explicitly coded it so non-frame
browsers would work. I had 9000 frames capables, 1000 non-frames
capable browsers visit since October 1, 1996. I re-did the entire
site to help the 10% (and to make things easier to get at). Whoever
told you that there were some things that were frames-only was downright
lying, or if you had ANY bad experience, you never told me.
<snip>
> Now (having vented my 2 cents <g>), a tip for you, Nancy (if you are
> one of whom you speak), or any others without Web access. A means by
> which you CAN retrieve Web pages, articles, etc, even if you only have
> email access.. (forgive me if you already have such info, but this is
> really a boon for those who feel themselves unable to get any
> web-stuff).. There are email services out there called _webservers_.
> You send an email to the webserver and tell it to get the webpage or
> pages you are interested in; it will visit the website, retrieve the
> webpage (article, etc.), and send it to you via email. Turnaround is
> usually a few hours or so. Here's a good one to try:
Some of the pages I have are XSSI or dynamically created. I hope the
service works on those.
I asked if there was any interest in setting up a mail service for
sneezy
on this list. Zero replies. Zippo. I figure it's a waste of my time.
If that isn't true, then I figure'd SOMEONE would have asked me.
I have my email address and the fact that I'm the webmaster of
sneezy in just about every signature. I have personally emailed pieces
of the FAQ to interested parties. If anyone needs a piece of sneezy
mailed to them (I just sent a FAQ about sneezy out), all they have to do
is ask. I do not own the material, and do not try to limit anyone's
access to it.
--
Mark Charette "In the next world, you're on your own"
charette@-----.com - Firesign Theater
(just a bit exasperated)
Webmaster, http://sneezy.mika.com/clarinet
