| Klarinet Archive - Posting 000151.txt from 1995/02 From: "Dan Leeson: LEESON@-----.EDU>Subj: Re: Jonathan Cohler's long message on vibrato
 Date: Tue,  7 Feb 1995 17:20:06 -0500
 
 I printed Jonathan's message out and carried it around for a few days
 to think about it and to be able to reread it on several occasions.
 I felt (and feel)  it   to be too important a statement to respond
 with a shot from the hip so I delayed and delayed responding until
 until I was sure what it was I wanted to say.
 
 While the topic was, ostensibly, vibrato,  I felt the most class
 aspect of his posting was its much broader perspective on a variety
 of things having to do with the clarinet and clarinet playing.
 
 What I got out of it was a general support for my belief (spoken of
 many times on this list) that clarinet playing (or should I say the
 performance of music in general) is very subjective.  As such, most
 of us presume that when we stop playing and start talking about the
 things we do on clarinet, it is OK to continue to be subjective.
 When our playing is emotional, so is our talk emotional.   So we
 all have a tendency to talk emotionally and try to pass it off how
 we do things as both fact and the only way to do them.
 
 Nowhere is this more true than with respect to vibrato but the
 attitude is not limited to that.  It is also true in performance
 practice, and original instrument performances, and theories on
 wood (and its behaviorial characteristics).  So when one teacher
 or player does not like vibrato (for whatever reason), then that
 player says that vibrato is bad and should not be done, and vice
 versa.
 
 As players we are terrific people, but when we act as part of the
 dialogue to help advance the state of the art, we sort of fall
 apart into a lot of fairy stories and old wives tales.
 
 The use of vibrato in Mozart is very illustrative: at least a half
 dozen people made very strong statements against that activity but
 I don't remember any of them saying why they felt that way.  Jonathan
 suggests the contrary and points to Charlie Neidich as having some
 kind of evidence that Stadler did it all the time.  I'd very much
 like to see what Charlie has to say on that topic because I have been
 looking for years to find some statement about vibrato on any wind
 instrument in music of the 18th century.  So far I have never been
 successful at finding any.  But in the absence of any information,
 I can easily come to the conclusion that it was encouraged because
 everything that was discouraged in the 18th century was invariably
 spelled out somewhere.   Things that were encouraged or expected
 were simply not spoken of.  You went to the theater and heard the
 things that you were expected to do, and vibrato was probably one
 of them.  But I don't know this for sure.
 
 Other feels so strongly (and protectively) about the music of Mozart
 that they would to add nothing to the notes and that includes
 trembling on them (i.e., vibrato), improvising on them, or even
 altering them when new evidence comes to light (such as K. 622
 where some of what we play, in terms of actual notes, is just plain
 wrong.  It is like embalming a work permanently, never to be changed,
 never to be restudied, never to be altered in any way beyond that
 of an epoch's perspective.
 
 All of this is by way of saying that Jonathan's document was
 extraordinarily impressive and, though he may not have meant it to do
 so, touched on things far beyond issues of vibrato.
 
 I don't know when I have enjoyed a posting more than his.
 
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 Dan Leeson, Los Altos, California
 (leeson@-----.edu)
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