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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000030.txt from 2008/01
From: gunterbsn@-----.net
Subj: Re: [DR-L] re: note nomenclature
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 00:32:01 -0500
Hey Harry,
Nice to hear from you.
I think the hornist is just playing the notes as fast as he can.
The last time I played it, I did try to flutter tongue, but it was so uneven, and I probably was not doing it correctly.
Have you had any experience with flutter tonguing. I have only seen it in the West Side Story part.
I just kind of flicked the reed with my tongue, do you know how it is done?
I can triple tongue, but not for very long and I am not sure I can keep it up for the time alloted in the Janacek.
What was he thinking:(
It is a great piece, nice dark colors.
It is for my College faculty quintet concert.
We are playing the Nielsen, Janacek and Danzo op. 56 #2
All good stuff for the quintet.
Well, it is always good to hear from you.
Hope we cross paths soon, and thanks!!!
Pat
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Harry Searing" <hsearing@-----.net>
>
> Hi, Pat!!
>
> Gee, I think I've heard this played two different ways.
>
> My understanding of tremolo marks is that you transfer the number of
> slashes to the same number of beams and you have your note value, in
> this case, 3 beams would become 32nd notes. Although at a dotted quarter
> = 132, that's fairly impossible. That's the same as quarter notes at
> 198! Even 16th notes would be impressive at that speed! (Maybe that's
> what I've heard.)
>
> I've also heard people play it as fluttertongue!
>
> The link that John provided says it's an "unmarked" tremolo. I don't
> necessarily agree with this assessment based on what I wrote above, but
> composers are notorious for making up their own notation, or
> misinterpreting standard conventions. So how knows. Not sure what
> "unmarked" means, maybe unmeasured? If that's the case, then I would say
> fluttertonguing would be appropriate.
>
> Neither the original Hudebni score or the Peters Liepzig (sort of an
> urtext edition, it's based on various sources), are any help in
> determining how to perform this passage.
>
> What does your hornist want to do?
>
> Regards,
> Harry
>
>
>
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