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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000066.txt from 2007/10

From: David Lurie <klingsor@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Play loud ...and louder!
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:17:50 -0400

At 12:38 PM 10/4/2007, you wrote:
>Most of the better conductors I have experienced have preferred and even
>demanded a very quiet pianissimo. I remember an excruciating Brahms' second
>Symphony under Nick Harsanyi in Philly. But damn, was it pretty!
>Herb

Sure! Soft is good, too!

David

>On 10/4/07 9:06 AM, "David Lurie" <klingsor@-----.com> wrote:
>
> > At 11:30 AM 10/4/2007, you wrote:
> >> Sometimes just playing at one's comfort level will alert the conductor=
(if
> >> he cares to hear your contribution) and he=20
> can ask for a little help in the
> >> dynamics of the entire group (who often are=20
> grinding, scratching and honking
> >> away on Oompah that is within their=20
> ability). This is a problem (although on
> >> an entirely different plane) even in fine professional groups. Once=
having
> >> developed a controlled and nuanced sound it=20
> is a bummer to have to accede to
> >> the demands of a community "band with string section". Face it, most of=
us
> >> start in bands,some of us never go further=20
> and then we show up in community
> >> orchestras. Then again, not all music is appropriately scored. A lot of
> >> Beethoven's best can benefit from dynamic juggling. Old instruments/new
> >> instruments - I don't know.
> >> Herb
> >
> > When I was still in High school, I played in a
> > small orchestra that the bassoonist David Van
> > Hoesen's father Carl Van Hoesen who was the
> > conducting professor there used to train his
> > conducting classes at the Eastman School of
> > Music. The elder Van Hoesen was constantly
> > calling for the conducting class students to
> > listen for - and adjust - the balance of
> > instruments. We played all great works by all
> > great composers. So what you are saying here
> > about composers and old instruments is very true.
> >
> > David
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 10/4/07 8:02 AM, "Angela Wells" <oneflute1oboe@-----.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I play in a community orchestra that doesn't even try for dynamics and
> >>> intonation. It's been a real shock after
> >> playing in university ensembles for
> >>> several years!
> >>>
> >>> Playing loud and louder has been freeing, but
> >> tiring. I've been liking my RDG
> >>> cane, building a lot of endurance, and learning some great repertoire.=
I
> >>> expect that soon it'll grow old and I'll leave the ensemble.
> >>>
> >>> I was contracted to play Peter and the Wolf
> >> (orchestral version) among other
> >>> things for an arts festival. The pay was
> >> decent, and for some reason that led
> >>> me to believe that the ensemble would perform
> >> at a certain level. Read about
> >>> the loudest tuning note in oboe history on my blog:
> >>> http://oneflute1oboe.livejournal.com/
> >>>
> >>> ~Angela
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------> From: harold@-----.br> To:
> >>> doublereed@-----.org> Date: Thu, 4 Oct
> >> 2007 05:55:16 -0300> Subject: [DR-L]
> >>> Play loud ...and louder!>> Dear List:> "Can
> >> everyome please play softer!"> I
> >>> found myself yesterday at an orchestra
> >> rehearsal making this exact> request.>
> >>> But it seems to be to avail: we seem to be=20
> playing louder and louder these>
> >>> days.So here's my question:how do we play
> >> loud and ... louder?> Besides using
> >>> a microphone on my oboe or EH ,I have tried
> >> taking less out of> the reed and
> >>> favoring the silver Chudnow tubes over the gold for this> task.Any=
other
> >>> suggestions?>> Awaiting all suggestions!>> Rgds,>> harold emert>>>
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