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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000060.txt from 2007/10

From: "David Crispin / Crispin's Creations" <crispinscreations@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Play loud ...and louder!
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:08:57 -0400

"I should think the metal staples of Chudnow's would give
you all the energy transfer you can get. "

Yes, actually, when it comes to shear volume, you're probably right.

-David Crispin

----- Original Message -----
From: "herb fawcett" <herbgosia@-----.net>
To: <doublereed@-----.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [DR-L] Play loud ...and louder!

> Have you seen the bassoon bocal adaptation with rubber O-rings? I imagine
> that could be further developed to avoid damping effects, as with cork. I
> haven't tried the system myself, but have heard from a few who say it
> makes
> a nice difference. I should think the metal staples of Chudnow's would
> give
> you all the energy transfer you can get. Vary the hardness of the rubber
> rings to maximize the effect. As the rings become less resilient or
> compressible it will become necessary to refine the tolerances of the
> equipment.
> Herb
>
>
> On 10/4/07 9:37 AM, "David Crispin / Crispin's Creations"
> <crispinscreations@-----.net> wrote:
>
>>> It is possible for one to make reeds that play louder (ever louder!) or
>>> to
>>> find a louder bocal, but what then when the Diva on the podium asks for
>>> a
>>> real pp ?
>>> Herb
>>
>>
>> Using tubes with a high density (Grenadilla or some of the other
>> rosewoods)
>> wooden "cork" would create very desirable and unusually intense
>> resonances
>> in the reeds staple, resulting in enhanced projection. Just ask Alex
>> Klein.
>> He used such stables when he had a source of them.
>>
>> Unfortunately, the manufacturing such wooden "corks" involves tremendous
>> manufacturing problems. Klein's source stopped production soon after
>> starting it, finding their production to be grueling, frustrating, and
>> economically unviable.
>>
>> It is one of my continuing projects to overcome or sidestep these
>> problems.
>> I spoke to Mark Chudnow about the matter at the IDRS conference in
>> Ithaca.
>> He agrees that a Grenadilla "cork" would be the cat's meow but has given
>> up
>> on the matter due to what he perceives as insurmountable production
>> problems.
>>
>> -David Crispin
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "herb fawcett" <herbgosia@-----.net>
>> To: <doublereed@-----.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DR-L] Play loud ...and louder!
>>
>>
>>> It is possible for one to make reeds that play louder (ever louder!) or
>>> to
>>> find a louder bocal, but what then when the Diva on the podium asks for
>>> a
>>> real pp ?
>>> Herb
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/4/07 6:11 AM, "Edward B. Flowers" <flowerse@-----.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Harold,
>>>>
>>>> (1) Practice more; beef up your embouchure and play more open reeds.
>>>>
>>>> (2) You could also switch from your sweet-sounding Loree Royale to an
>>>> AK
>>>> bore. The AK bore widens more quickly and is louder.
>>>>
>>>> I watched Sherry Syler do (1) above at last Sunday's Double Entendre
>>>> concert at the Goethe Institute on 5th Avenue.
>>>>
>>>> Stuart Dunkle emphasized point (2) while coaching me this summer at
>>>> Wellesley. He domonstrated how loud his AK bore was and he also played
>>>> a
>>>> very open reed.
>>>>
>>>> These two points really do work.
>>>>
>>>> (3) I should also point out that the AK bore has a more penetrating
>>>> (and
>>>> variable) tone which will cut through the other loud instrument sounds.
>>>> But I don't like this tone for chamber music--it sounds terrible in the
>>>> upper register with a flute.
>>>>
>>>> Edward B. Flowers (ob, EH)
>>>> New York City
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HAROLD wrote:
>>>>> Dear List:
>>>>> "Can everyome please play softer!"
>>>>> I found myself yesterday at an orchestra rehearsal making this exact
>>>>> request.
>>>>> But it seems to be to avail: we seem to be playing louder and louder
>>>>> these days.So here's my question:how do we play loud and ... louder?
>>>>> Besides using a microphone on my oboe or EH ,I have tried taking less
>>>>> out of the reed and favoring the silver Chudnow tubes over the gold
>>>>> for this task.Any other suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Awaiting all suggestions!
>>>>>
>>>>> Rgds,
>>>>>
>>>>> harold emert
>>>>>
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