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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000056.txt from 2007/10

From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Play loud ...and louder!
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 12:38:44 -0400

Most of the better conductors I have experienced have preferred and even
demanded a very quiet pianissimo. I remember an excruciating Brahms' second
Symphony under Nick Harsanyi in Philly. But damn, was it pretty!
Herb

On 10/4/07 9:06 AM, "David Lurie" <klingsor@-----.com> wrote:

> At 11:30 AM 10/4/2007, you wrote:
>> Sometimes just playing at one's comfort level will alert the conductor (=
if
>> he cares to hear your contribution) and he can ask for a little help in =
the
>> dynamics of the entire group (who often are grinding, scratching and hon=
king
>> away on Oompah that is within their ability). This is a problem (althoug=
h on
>> an entirely different plane) even in fine professional groups. Once havi=
ng
>> developed a controlled and nuanced sound it is a bummer to have to acced=
e to
>> the demands of a community "band with string section". Face it, most of =
us
>> start in bands,some of us never go further and then we show up in commun=
ity
>> orchestras. Then again, not all music is appropriately scored. A lot of
>> Beethoven's best can benefit from dynamic juggling. Old instruments/new
>> instruments - I don't know.
>> Herb
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> When I was still in High school, I played in a
> small orchestra that the bassoonist David Van
> Hoesen's father Carl Van Hoesen who was the
> conducting professor there used to train his
> conducting classes at the Eastman School of
> Music. The elder Van Hoesen was constantly
> calling for the conducting class students to
> listen for - and adjust - the balance of
> instruments. We played all great works by all
> great composers. So what you are saying here
> about composers and old instruments is very true.
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> David
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> David
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>> On 10/4/07 8:02 AM, "Angela Wells" <oneflute1oboe@-----.com> wrote:
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>>> I play in a community orchestra that doesn't even try for dynamics and
>>> intonation. It's been a real shock after
>> playing in university ensembles for
>>> several years!
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>>> Playing loud and louder has been freeing, but
>> tiring. I've been liking my RDG
>>> cane, building a lot of endurance, and learning some great repertoire. =
I
>>> expect that soon it'll grow old and I'll leave the ensemble.
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>>> I was contracted to play Peter and the Wolf
>> (orchestral version) among other
>>> things for an arts festival. The pay was
>> decent, and for some reason that led
>>> me to believe that the ensemble would perform
>> at a certain level. Read about
>>> the loudest tuning note in oboe history on my blog:
>>> http://oneflute1oboe.livejournal.com/
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>>> ~Angela
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>>> ----------------------------------------> From: harold@-----.br> To:
>>> doublereed@-----.org> Date: Thu, 4 Oct
>> 2007 05:55:16 -0300> Subject: [DR-L]
>>> Play loud ...and louder!>> Dear List:> "Can
>> everyome please play softer!"> I
>>> found myself yesterday at an orchestra
>> rehearsal making this exact> request.>
>>> But it seems to be to avail: we seem to be playing louder and louder th=
ese>
>>> days.So here's my question:how do we play
>> loud and ... louder?> Besides using
>>> a microphone on my oboe or EH ,I have tried
>> taking less out of> the reed and
>>> favoring the silver Chudnow tubes over the gold for this> task.Any othe=
r
>>> suggestions?>> Awaiting all suggestions!>> Rgds,>> harold emert>>>
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