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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000087.txt from 2007/07
From: "Ed B. Flowers" <flowerse@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Joseph oboes etc.
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 03:17:12 -0400
Matthew,
Interesting comment, Matthew--Joseph inflexible timbre; Yamaha flexible
timbre.
I don't try to vary the timbre and tone color of my Loree. I make the
reeds so that all of their characteristics are good. I leave the tip and
heart thick enough to get a rich tone--the two reed-making things that I
do that affect tone color most--and, from then on, the timbre and tone
color is determined by good embouchure and the instrument.
The Loree, as I play it, has a buzzier tone from about the middle C down
to low Bb. From C# up to F it has the "singing sound" that Lorees are
famous for. I don't feel that I have much control over these timbres and
tone colors, aside from controlling dynamics. The Royales have an
overall smoother, darker tone and you can play them much louder without
sounding harsh. The Loree standard bore has a buzzier, more traditional
oboe sound overall, but sounds more "open," and resonant.
I recently played an AK bore for about three months before trading it.
To me, its timbre and tone color were more variable than the other Loree
models and bores. The reason I traded it was that it sounded thin, and a
bit reedy in the upper register (didn't sound good with a flute up there).
Edward B. Flowers (ob, EH)
New York City
Matthew Peaceman wrote:
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>> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:14:07 -0400
>> To: doublereed@-----.org
>> From: "Ed B. Flowers" <flowerse@-----.net>
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>> Phil,
>>
>> As you know, I'm a Loree addict. But you work for Forrests Music, so,
>> have you ever played a Yamaha or a Joseph? How do they compare?
>>
>> Edward B. Flowers (ob, EH)
>> New York City
>>
>>
> I have played Joseph, Yamaha, Marigeaux, Lorée etc., etc. etc. Joseph
> is not a mass produced oboe nor a cheap copy of any kind. It is made
> by a master craftsman with a special sound and feel for an oboe in his
> ear. One of them I played I thought was possibly the best oboe I have
> ever played. Others have not made the same impression but they were
> all excellent. Joseph has made some very major changes with some very
> distinct results in the sound and response of the oboe. It's possibly
> the most expensive oboe on the market today though. At the other end
> of the financial spectrum, the Yamah, in any case the model made for
> the German market in semi-automatic form, which I own and use is at
> least comparable in response, sound and intonation if not distinctly
> better than most every oboe I have played. At the same time it is one
> of the most flexible oboes I have ever played. It does not require
> that I have but one type of sound but allows me to play in many
> different ways. This is my major critique of the Joseph, Ludwig Franke
> and some other similar oboes. They each have very warm sounds with
> easy response all over the scale but tend to sound the same regardless
> of what you do to try to change it.
> For some this characteristic is the answer to all one's problems, for
> others such as myself, it feels a little like being in a cage. In any
> case the globalisation project is not a oneway street. If American
> oboe playing experiences an interruption in the knee-jerk
> brand-xenophobia that still dominates it might just discover that
> individual taste can be enhanced by an individual choice of instrument.
>
> Greetings from Rio de Janeiro
> Matthew
>
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