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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000078.txt from 2007/06
From: "Keith Bowen" <bowenk@-----.com>
Subj: [DR-L] RE: doublereed Digest 16 Jun 2007 21:01:02 -0000 Issue 1653
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:21:17 -0400
Ed
I recently changed from Leblanc Concerto clarinets (very similar to Buffets,
whatever they say) to Wurlitzer Schmidt Reform Boehm. My Leblancs were very
well in tune but the Wurlitzers are much better. I play with both
professionals and amateurs, who mostly have Buffets. With the pros, we are
very well in tune, because they adjust. However the amateurs tend to play in
the middle of the note, and there are certain notes that clash, as Buffets
and Leblancs are less well in tune. So for clarinets at least, what you say
is not correct.
Having said that, no wind instruments are, or should be, equal temperament,
and adjustments are always required to play in tune. No note is fixed; it
depends on the harmonic context.
If anyone doubts this they should do this exercise with another. Both play
C. Then player 2 holds C, player 1 plays G, and they tune to a perfect fifth
(no beats). Player 1 back to C. Then player 1 up to B, again tune the
seventh till it is beatless. Then player 2 moves back up to the G (as close
as possible the same one s/he played before). Player 1 then should adjust to
get the third in tune. The difference is quite large and easily perceptible.
The reason is that beat-free tuning is what we aim for in an ensemble, the
the seventh of the tonic (I) is a different pitch from the third of the
dominant (V).
As for "dark tone"... I just refer you to the Klarinet list archives ...
Keith Bowen
>Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:18:18 -0400
To: doublereed@-----.org
From: "Ed B. Flowers" <flowerse@-----.net>
Subject: Re: [DR-L] Re: 21 yr old Elizabeth Koch, Curtis dropout=ASO
Principal
Oboe
Message-ID: <46741B5A.9000408@-----.net>
>Barbara,
>A fascinating conjecture.
>I though all of us Loree players were supposed to be instinctively
lipping the notes in tune. Lipping notes in tune is also necessary on
dark-toned Buffet clarininets. Apparently out-of-tune scales are the
price that you pay for better tone. The in-tune oboes and clarinets that
I've played didn't have nearly as nice a tone.
Edward B. Flowers
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