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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000045.txt from 2007/02

From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Old oboes --- was :Age of my English Horn
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:43:26 -0500

If the crack doesn't leak, what's the problem? Leaks are pretty easy to find
with the technology available these days. Fixing them can require some
serious talent.
Herb

On 2/3/07 3:13 PM, "Edward B. Flowers" <flowerse@-----.net> wrote:

> Sameer,
>
> As far as the Lorees are concerned, newer is better--the Lorees just get
> better and better. Loree has improved their oboes a lot over the years.
> Also the wooden bore hasn't had time to absorb moisture and shrink.
> Fortunately, this shrinkage process takes a long time.
>
> Other problems with older oboes is that they are often allowed to dry
> out, and so, crack. It's often hard for a player to spot all of the
> cracks in an oboe. Just the other day Margaret Noble found a beginning
> crack in the facing of the top trill key and patched it. You couldn't
> even see this crack unless you took the trill key off.
>
> Edward B. Flowers (ob)
> New York City
>
>
>
> Sameer Al-Abdullah wrote:
>> I heard alot of people over here saying that an old wooden instrument
>> is more valuable, expensive and sound alot better simply because the
>> wood is old. This was said about clarinets from a clarinet player. I
>> told the guy maybe thats true since I knew nothing about clarinets but
>> old "blown out"oboes are not expensive and wont play as good as a new
>> good oboe. Am I right?
>>
>> The same thing i hear about the Oud, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oud
>> . The older the oud ( wood) the better the sound. From what i
>> understood the wood of the oud sounds better if it's been played for
>> years. I dont know, is it something with the physic of the wood and
>> the tones resonating thru it all these years?
>>
>> When I first received my brand new oboe I took it out of the case, put
>> it together and it played like a dream. Two days later and after my
>> oboe sniffed the hot dry air of the desert that lovely dream turned to
>> a nightmare.
>>
>> Old is gold for sure but hey, I look horrible in it!!
>>
>> xx
>>
>> On 2/3/07, Kevin H. Moore <oboetools@-----.com> wrote:
>>> It's not folklore at all. It's real.
>>>
>>> The top joint becomes worn down over time, affecting sound and
>>> tuning. Just
>>> before getting my new(er) oboe in 1992, playing my old one had become
>>> torture, literally. If I hadn't gotten a new one, I'd have had to
>>> quit. Yes,
>>> it was _that_ bad.
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "herb fawcett" <herbgosia@-----.net>
>>> To: <doublereed@-----.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 15:25 Hrs
>>> Subject: Re: [DR-L] Age of my English Horn
>>>
>>>
>>>> What makes an oboe a "poor tired oboe"? Isn't "being blown out"
>>> just folk
>>>> lore? Vibration is physics. Just curious.
>>>> Herb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/3/07 7:54 AM, "Angela Wells" <oneflute1oboe@-----.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yep, I have oboe number 96D. It has a nice clear sound, but it's
>>> a poor
>>>>> tired old oboe. I'm excited about buying a new one as soon as I
>>> have the
>>>>> fund$.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any site that lists serial numbers and manufacturers probably
>>> won't have
>>>>> your instrument listed either. Knowing which Rigoutat generation
>>> built
>>> it is
>>>>> probably as close as you're going to get.
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Angela
>>>>>
>>>>> ----Original Message Follows----
>>>>> From: Itzik Dekel <dekely@-----.il>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Angela !
>>>>> Yes exactly, it predates their present documentation. (By the way I
>>> once
>>>>> saw a site mentioning the different serial numbers of the main oboe
>>>>> producers - has anyone stillgot it ?)
>>>>> Has your serial number got letters and numbers ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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