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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000040.txt from 2007/02

From: "Edward B. Flowers" <flowerse@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Old oboes --- was :Age of my English Horn
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 18:13:40 -0500

Sameer,

As far as the Lorees are concerned, newer is better--the Lorees just get
better and better. Loree has improved their oboes a lot over the years.
Also the wooden bore hasn't had time to absorb moisture and shrink.
Fortunately, this shrinkage process takes a long time.

Other problems with older oboes is that they are often allowed to dry
out, and so, crack. It's often hard for a player to spot all of the
cracks in an oboe. Just the other day Margaret Noble found a beginning
crack in the facing of the top trill key and patched it. You couldn't
even see this crack unless you took the trill key off.

Edward B. Flowers (ob)
New York City

Sameer Al-Abdullah wrote:
> I heard alot of people over here saying that an old wooden instrument
> is more valuable, expensive and sound alot better simply because the
> wood is old. This was said about clarinets from a clarinet player. I
> told the guy maybe thats true since I knew nothing about clarinets but
> old "blown out"oboes are not expensive and wont play as good as a new
> good oboe. Am I right?
>
> The same thing i hear about the Oud, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oud
> . The older the oud ( wood) the better the sound. From what i
> understood the wood of the oud sounds better if it's been played for
> years. I dont know, is it something with the physic of the wood and
> the tones resonating thru it all these years?
>
> When I first received my brand new oboe I took it out of the case, put
> it together and it played like a dream. Two days later and after my
> oboe sniffed the hot dry air of the desert that lovely dream turned to
> a nightmare.
>
> Old is gold for sure but hey, I look horrible in it!!
>
> xx
>
> On 2/3/07, Kevin H. Moore <oboetools@-----.com> wrote:
>> It's not folklore at all. It's real.
>>
>> The top joint becomes worn down over time, affecting sound and
>> tuning. Just
>> before getting my new(er) oboe in 1992, playing my old one had become
>> torture, literally. If I hadn't gotten a new one, I'd have had to
>> quit. Yes,
>> it was _that_ bad.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "herb fawcett" <herbgosia@-----.net>
>> To: <doublereed@-----.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 15:25 Hrs
>> Subject: Re: [DR-L] Age of my English Horn
>>
>>
>> > What makes an oboe a "poor tired oboe"? Isn't "being blown out"
>> just folk
>> > lore? Vibration is physics. Just curious.
>> > Herb
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2/3/07 7:54 AM, "Angela Wells" <oneflute1oboe@-----.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Yep, I have oboe number 96D. It has a nice clear sound, but it's
>> a poor
>> > > tired old oboe. I'm excited about buying a new one as soon as I
>> have the
>> > > fund$.
>> > >
>> > > Any site that lists serial numbers and manufacturers probably
>> won't have
>> > > your instrument listed either. Knowing which Rigoutat generation
>> built
>> it is
>> > > probably as close as you're going to get.
>> > >
>> > > ~Angela
>> > >
>> > > ----Original Message Follows----
>> > > From: Itzik Dekel <dekely@-----.il>
>> > >
>> > > Thanks Angela !
>> > > Yes exactly, it predates their present documentation. (By the way I
>> once
>> > > saw a site mentioning the different serial numbers of the main oboe
>> > > producers - has anyone stillgot it ?)
>> > > Has your serial number got letters and numbers ?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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