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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000023.txt from 2007/01
From: "Miriam Williams" <mwquacker@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] RE: Seperation of Church and State (was Please Excuse)
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 11:45:14 -0500
Personally, I do not like to say the Pledge, not bc I don't believe in God,
but bc we are NOT "one nation under God", not all citizens believe in God,
or even the same God (don't want to open a religious discussion here!).
Here is a site you might find interesting:
http://rexcurry.net/pledge1.html
(snippet)
This is the only website that collects and shows historic photos of the
original straight-arm socialist salute to the U.S. flag that the media and
the government schools won't show you. This is the only place that tells
you the WHOLE story, not the "government-school" version that the media
recite from lessons in government schools. Stop saluting and slip the surly
bonds of socialism. Enter the vexing world of vexillology.
Francis Bellamy wrote the pledge of allegiance to the U.S. flag. The pledge
expressed the totalitarian socialism of his cousin and cohort Edward
Bellamy, as detailed in “Looking Backward,” Edward’s book and
weltanschauung.
The original pledge used a straight-arm salute beginning in 1892. As the
nation's leading authority on the pledge of allegiance, RexCurry.net made
the historic discovery that the salute of the National Socialist German
Workers' Party (Nazis) originated from the military salute in the USA, and
from the original flag pledge (as written by a socialist), and not from
ancient Rome.
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Many more links on this site also.
This is one reason I'm for the separation of *School* and State, the
privatization of the entire system. Glad I homeschooled; it wasn't easy, but
it was worth it.
Miriam
----- Original Message -----
From: <jmvidourek21@-----.net>
To: <doublereed@-----.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 12:56 AM
Subject: [DR-L] RE: Seperation of Church and State (was Please Excuse)
> In response to:
>
> "And... That extra little phrase was added to the pledge while I was a
> young man. Wonder what was the genesis of that idea.
> Herb"
>
>
> Joseph McCarthy played a fairly large role in making sure the pledge
> was changed to include "under God". He and other religious
> fundamentalists thought the inclusion of the phrase would help to
> distinguish
> the
> United States from Communist countries like Russia, which often promoted
> Atheism. Check out www.religioustolerance.org/nat_pled1.htm for a wealth
> of information.
>
>
>
> Jake Vidourek
> Student
> Tennessee Technological University
> Cookeville, TN
> Music Education Major, Instrumental (oboe)
> German Major
>
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