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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000020.txt from 2006/11
From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] reed cleaning/hydration/attn Herb Fawcett
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:00:57 -0500
Tim Chance can do the micro analysis. I thought spirogyra was a Greek
sandwich!
Just be careful whose reed you play, and check their lip for open sores.
Herb
On 11/4/06 9:24 AM, "Ed B. Flowers" <flowerse@-----.net> wrote:
> Herb,
>
> The soaker on my reed making desk keeps developing green particles at
> the bottom of the water. It looks like clumps of spirogyra to me (or
> clumps of very tiny frogs). Spirogyra in my mouth--on my reeds? Since I
> don't have a microscope anymore, why don't I send you a sample for
> confirmation. You could run a paritculate confirmation service and
> graph the inhabitants of double reeders mouths across the globe--even
> provide a map of this phenomen.
>
> The reed soaker on my music stand develops flesh-colored particulate--go
> figure.
>
> On the other hand, you probably already know all about this.
>
> Edward B. Flowers (ob)
> New York City
>
>
> Ann Rosandich wrote:
>
>> what about the after-taste of the glycerol? A few years ago I
>> diluted glycerol with distilled water and immersed a reed in the
>> solution. Thereafter the reed had a very unpleasant
>> taste/after-taste. I did not notice any positive or negative changes
>> in the reed's hydration properties. I discarded the glycerol. I
>> obtained the glycerol from one of my student's, a PhD at one of
>> Harvard's virology labs, and was assured of its highest grade and
>> purity. After observing my reaction to the taste of the glycerol
>> she didn't even want to try the stuff.
>>
>> ann
>>
>> On Friday, November 3, 2006, at 07:13 AM, Mike Benthin wrote:
>>
>>> Herb, ever add glycerol to the mouth rinse you advocated for reed
>>> cleaning/sterilization? Wouldn't peroxide digest some of the reed
>>> composition?
>>> link: (may need to paste if browser cuts it)
>>> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-
>>> Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum
>>> .htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,379,673.PN.&OS=PN/5,379,673&RS=PN/5,379,673
>>>
>>> Inventors: Vogt; Robert F. (Atlanta, GA)
>>> Assignee: Carvo Musical Products, Inc. (Atlanta, GA)
>>>
>>> Appl. No.: 08/179,572
>>> Filed: January 7, 1994
>>>
>>> The use of 3% hydrogen peroxide, by itself, provides the most
>>> effective cleansing of the reeds but when used alone causes the
>>> reeds to dry out and warp upon repeated use. The addition of at
>>> least 5% glycerol to a composition containing hydrogen peroxide as
>>> in the invention prevents the adverse action of hydrogen peroxide.
>>> Glycerol concentrations, however, above 10% cause reeds to "deaden"
>>> from over-hydration after repeated treatment. Glycerol
>>> concentrations in the range of 7-8% provide the most effective
>>> treatment without the disadvantages of overhydration.
>>>
>>> Reeds which have been treated with the composition containing the
>>> preferred concentrations of glycerol and hydrogen peroxide on a
>>> weekly basis retain a clean appearance and do not show growth of
>>> molds or bacteria, even up to at least two years after last use.
>>> With proper storage, such as in a reed holder, reeds treated with
>>> the composition of the invention do not warp as is often the case
>>> with untreated reeds. In addition, treated reeds retain enough
>>> moisture for at least one week after treatment to prevent the
>>> warping that generally accompanies dryness in untreated reeds. Such
>>> treated reeds are easily playable by simply rehydrating the reed
>>> with saliva. Regular treatment with the preferred composition allows
>>> reeds to be used between twice and three times as often as untreated
>>> reeds. Thus, if an untreated reed were acceptable for five
>>> performance or practice sessions, a reed treated according to the
>>> invention would be acceptable for use for 10-15performance or
>>> practice sessions.
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