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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000012.txt from 2006/11
From: "Ed B. Flowers" <flowerse@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] reed cleaning/hydration/attn Herb Fawcett
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:25:43 -0500
Herb,
The soaker on my reed making desk keeps developing green particles at
the bottom of the water. It looks like clumps of spirogyra to me (or
clumps of very tiny frogs). Spirogyra in my mouth--on my reeds? Since I
don't have a microscope anymore, why don't I send you a sample for
confirmation. You could run a paritculate confirmation service and
graph the inhabitants of double reeders mouths across the globe--even
provide a map of this phenomen.
The reed soaker on my music stand develops flesh-colored particulate--go
figure.
On the other hand, you probably already know all about this.
Edward B. Flowers (ob)
New York City
Ann Rosandich wrote:
> what about the after-taste of the glycerol? A few years ago I
> diluted glycerol with distilled water and immersed a reed in the
> solution. Thereafter the reed had a very unpleasant
> taste/after-taste. I did not notice any positive or negative changes
> in the reed's hydration properties. I discarded the glycerol. I
> obtained the glycerol from one of my student's, a PhD at one of
> Harvard's virology labs, and was assured of its highest grade and
> purity. After observing my reaction to the taste of the glycerol
> she didn't even want to try the stuff.
>
> ann
>
> On Friday, November 3, 2006, at 07:13 AM, Mike Benthin wrote:
>
>> Herb, ever add glycerol to the mouth rinse you advocated for reed
>> cleaning/sterilization? Wouldn't peroxide digest some of the reed
>> composition?
>> link: (may need to paste if browser cuts it)
>> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-
>> Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum
>> .htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,379,673.PN.&OS=PN/5,379,673&RS=PN/5,379,673
>>
>> Inventors: Vogt; Robert F. (Atlanta, GA)
>> Assignee: Carvo Musical Products, Inc. (Atlanta, GA)
>>
>> Appl. No.: 08/179,572
>> Filed: January 7, 1994
>>
>> The use of 3% hydrogen peroxide, by itself, provides the most
>> effective cleansing of the reeds but when used alone causes the
>> reeds to dry out and warp upon repeated use. The addition of at
>> least 5% glycerol to a composition containing hydrogen peroxide as
>> in the invention prevents the adverse action of hydrogen peroxide.
>> Glycerol concentrations, however, above 10% cause reeds to "deaden"
>> from over-hydration after repeated treatment. Glycerol
>> concentrations in the range of 7-8% provide the most effective
>> treatment without the disadvantages of overhydration.
>>
>> Reeds which have been treated with the composition containing the
>> preferred concentrations of glycerol and hydrogen peroxide on a
>> weekly basis retain a clean appearance and do not show growth of
>> molds or bacteria, even up to at least two years after last use.
>> With proper storage, such as in a reed holder, reeds treated with
>> the composition of the invention do not warp as is often the case
>> with untreated reeds. In addition, treated reeds retain enough
>> moisture for at least one week after treatment to prevent the
>> warping that generally accompanies dryness in untreated reeds. Such
>> treated reeds are easily playable by simply rehydrating the reed
>> with saliva. Regular treatment with the preferred composition allows
>> reeds to be used between twice and three times as often as untreated
>> reeds. Thus, if an untreated reed were acceptable for five
>> performance or practice sessions, a reed treated according to the
>> invention would be acceptable for use for 10-15performance or
>> practice sessions.
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