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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000088.txt from 2006/08

From: Arri Bachrach <abachrach@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Mozart Oboe Quartet
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:48:43 -0400


>The bassoon is the only true factor for good in the world.

only if it is played on by a good reed:-=))))
AB (from Brooklyn)

>Steve Welgoss
>Long Island, NY
>bassoon@-----.com
>www.welgoss.com
>917-572-6667
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: Arri Bachrach <abachrach@-----.net>
>Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 15:19:52 -0400
>
> >Steve,
> >
> >And if you believe that the Hezballah and Iran are positive factors for the
> >good of the world you will rise even higher in Lurie's estimation........
> >
> >AB
> >
> >
> >
> >>>I dont think Condi and I would be natural pals.
> >>>
> >>>Steve
> >>
> >>Very good,Steve! You have already gone way up in my estimation!
> >>
> >>David
> >>
> >>
> >>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >>>From: David Lurie <klingsor@-----.com>
> >>>Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
> >>>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:41:04 -0400
> >>>
> >>> >Hi Steve
> >>> >
> >>> >I do like the political imagination expressed here. While anything
> >>> >would be better than the senseless destruction that is currently
> >>> >going on in Lebanon, why don't you give all of these ideas to Condi
> >>> >Rice for her to apply?
> >>> >
> >>> >David
> >>> >
> >>> >At 03:06 PM 8/9/2006, you wrote:
> >>> >>I was actually only talking about the Bassoon concerto. However,
> >>> >>you raise some other interesting thoughts. I was wondering this
> >>> >>week if we dropped thousands of bassoons and reedmaking kits on
> >>> >>Israel and the Hezboullah wouldn't they be too busy making reeds and
> >>> >>learning the Mozart Concerto to bomb each other? Also, bassoonists
> >>> >>are of such good nature that becoming bassoonists might transform
> >>> >>both sides into loving neighbors. If we dropped oboes, I am sure it
> >>> >>would only escalate the conflict (teeeheeee)
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Steve
> >>> >>
> >>> >>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >>> >>From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
> >>> >>Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
> >>> >>Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:16:57 -0700
> >>> >>
> >>> >> >Thanks, it has been a long time since I saw Ron.
> >>> >> >I too like Garfield's cadenzas, Turkovic's recorded cadenza,
> >>> Guetter's and,
> >>> >> >Karol Bydlo's cadenzas, and I also like Ibert's little gizmo. I don't
> >>> >> >necessarily prefer the Ibert, but I don't agree with the uptight
> >>> assertion
> >>> >> >that it is "inappropriate". Inappropriate for what reason?
> Pedantry (a
> >>> >> >virulent disease of educators, since it eliminates the need for
> actual
> >>> >> >thinking) has never been my favorite retreat; I even allow for a
> little
> >>> >> >vibrato in French horn playing, and I love a little of it in clarinet
> >>> >> >playing. He's not my favorite (prefer Harold Wright) but I think
> >>> Stolzman
> >>> >> >has a lot to offer in his rather romantic interpretation of Mozart.
> >>> >> >Does anyone see the hypocrisy in the "progressive liberal" attacking
> >>> >> >conservatism, yet maintaining "hidebound" insistence on his own
> >>> canon? (Thou
> >>> >> >shalt allow the government, or rigid convention to rule your
> life...thou
> >>> >> >shalt not cut a single tree, nor bore a hole in search of oil. Thou
> >>> shalt
> >>> >> >not vary from the style of the period when you play your "moment"
> in a
> >>> >> >concerto performance.) Yuk! I prefer the freedom of total (very
> >>> idealistic,
> >>> >> >I know) self-determinism, while seeking civil agreement through law.
> >>> >> >Sorry for the rant,
> >>> >> >Herb
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >On 8/9/06 8:44 AM, "Steve Welgoss" <bassoon@-----.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >> Re Mozart Bassoon Concerto Cadenzas. I prefer the Garfield
> >>> >> cadenzas (and his
> >>> >> >> recording) to anything else I have ever heard. Herb, btw, I spoke
> >>> with Ron
> >>> >> >> Phillips on the phone last night and he sends you his regards.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Steve Welgoss
> >>> >> >> Long Island, NY
> >>> >> >> bassoon@-----.com
> >>> >> >> www.welgoss.com
> >>> >> >> 917-572-6667
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >>> >> >> From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
> >>> >> >> Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
> >>> >> >> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:28:27 -0700
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>> Harold,
> >>> >> >>> I am not a musicologist by any means, and I do agree with your
> >>> idea of
> >>> >> >>> personalization of cadenzas. For Mozart's bassoon concerto we
> >>> >> have the Ibert
> >>> >> >>> set of cadenzas, which I believe to be quite pretty. Oubradous
> >>> >> used them on
> >>> >> >>> his recording, and I have not heard them since. A pity. Unless
> >>> >> the composer
> >>> >> >>> wrote the intended cadenza, I think we should be free to play
> >>> >> any style, as
> >>> >> >>> long as it relates to the concerto itself. Eg using material
> from the
> >>> >> >>> movements.
> >>> >> >>> Good luck. I will be interested in the responses.
> >>> >> >>> Best,
> >>> >> >>> Herb
> >>> >> >>>
> >>> >> >>>
> >>> >> >>> On 8/9/06 2:17 AM, "harold emert" <harold@-----.br> wrote:
> >>> >> >>>
> >>> >> >>>> Dear List (which is Not going out of business):
> >>> >> >>>> This habit/vice(?) developed over the years of writing about
> >>> what I am
> >>> >> >>>> studying and asking others for suggestions is difficult to kick.
> >>> >> >>>> I find myself studying for performance this week the Mozart oboe
> >>> >> >>>> Quartet --the fourth time I do it over the years.But Mozart being
> >>> >> >>>> Mozart,there are always queries in addition to the preparation
> >>> >> of miniscule
> >>> >> >>>> details.
> >>> >> >>>> Studying the arrangement for oboe and piano called
> >>> >> "Concertino"by Southern
> >>> >> >>>> Music,I am, convinced that the grace notes or measures 30 and 43
> >>> are g
> >>> >> >>>> naturals and not g#,as indicated in the part because of the
> string
> >>> >> >>>> parts.Why?Because the g natural fits in better with the
> harmonies.
> >>> >> >>>> I also tend to agree with Alex Klein who observed in Muncie
> >>> at his
> >>> >> >>>> master class that Mozart composed this hectic movement for the
> >>> >> >>>> "mad"character of oboist Ramm--therefore explaining the
> >>> "crazy"jumps for
> >>> >> >>>> this epoch.
> >>> >> >>>> The second movement's Cadenza is another query on my mind. I
> >>> >> once performed
> >>> >> >>>> as an orchestral member with a group of Brazilian
> >>> >> chorinho(sort of but not
> >>> >> >>>> local blues) musicians performing Mozart and their cadenzas
> included
> >>> >> >>>> excerpts from Chorinhos.Why not personalize the Cadenza? (Once
> >>> heard a
> >>> >> >>>> twelve tone Cadenza for the Mozart flute concerto!)
> >>> >> >>>> The two recordings I have are by Holliger and Goosens,but
> >>> >> would appreciate
> >>> >> >>>> hearing about whatever recordings you might prefer and why.
> >>> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >>>> Best wishes as I await not only answers(?) but new topics on
> >>> >> this List which
> >>> >> >>>> remains ,
> >>> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >>>> Harold Emert
> >>> >> >>>> Rio-Brazil
> >>> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >>>>
> >>> >> >>>>
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