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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000087.txt from 2006/08

From: "Steve Welgoss" <bassoon@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Mozart Oboe Quartet
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:24:07 -0400

The bassoon is the only true factor for good in the world.

Steve Welgoss
Long Island, NY
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www.welgoss.com
917-572-6667

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Arri Bachrach <abachrach@-----.net>
Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 15:19:52 -0400

>Steve,
>
>And if you believe that the Hezballah and Iran are positive factors for the
>good of the world you will rise even higher in Lurie's estimation........
>
>AB
>
>
>
>>>I dont think Condi and I would be natural pals.
>>>
>>>Steve
>>
>>Very good,Steve! You have already gone way up in my estimation!
>>
>>David
>>
>>
>>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>>From: David Lurie <klingsor@-----.com>
>>>Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
>>>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:41:04 -0400
>>>
>>> >Hi Steve
>>> >
>>> >I do like the political imagination expressed here. While anything
>>> >would be better than the senseless destruction that is currently
>>> >going on in Lebanon, why don't you give all of these ideas to Condi
>>> >Rice for her to apply?
>>> >
>>> >David
>>> >
>>> >At 03:06 PM 8/9/2006, you wrote:
>>> >>I was actually only talking about the Bassoon concerto. However,
>>> >>you raise some other interesting thoughts. I was wondering this
>>> >>week if we dropped thousands of bassoons and reedmaking kits on
>>> >>Israel and the Hezboullah wouldn't they be too busy making reeds and
>>> >>learning the Mozart Concerto to bomb each other? Also, bassoonists
>>> >>are of such good nature that becoming bassoonists might transform
>>> >>both sides into loving neighbors. If we dropped oboes, I am sure it
>>> >>would only escalate the conflict (teeeheeee)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>Steve
>>> >>
>>> >>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>> >>From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
>>> >>Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
>>> >>Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:16:57 -0700
>>> >>
>>> >> >Thanks, it has been a long time since I saw Ron.
>>> >> >I too like Garfield's cadenzas, Turkovic's recorded cadenza,
>>> Guetter's and,
>>> >> >Karol Bydlo's cadenzas, and I also like Ibert's little gizmo. I don't
>>> >> >necessarily prefer the Ibert, but I don't agree with the uptight
>>> assertion
>>> >> >that it is "inappropriate". Inappropriate for what reason? Pedantry (a
>>> >> >virulent disease of educators, since it eliminates the need for actual
>>> >> >thinking) has never been my favorite retreat; I even allow for a little
>>> >> >vibrato in French horn playing, and I love a little of it in clarinet
>>> >> >playing. He's not my favorite (prefer Harold Wright) but I think
>>> Stolzman
>>> >> >has a lot to offer in his rather romantic interpretation of Mozart.
>>> >> >Does anyone see the hypocrisy in the "progressive liberal" attacking
>>> >> >conservatism, yet maintaining "hidebound" insistence on his own
>>> canon? (Thou
>>> >> >shalt allow the government, or rigid convention to rule your life...thou
>>> >> >shalt not cut a single tree, nor bore a hole in search of oil. Thou
>>> shalt
>>> >> >not vary from the style of the period when you play your "moment" in a
>>> >> >concerto performance.) Yuk! I prefer the freedom of total (very
>>> idealistic,
>>> >> >I know) self-determinism, while seeking civil agreement through law.
>>> >> >Sorry for the rant,
>>> >> >Herb
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >On 8/9/06 8:44 AM, "Steve Welgoss" <bassoon@-----.com> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Re Mozart Bassoon Concerto Cadenzas. I prefer the Garfield
>>> >> cadenzas (and his
>>> >> >> recording) to anything else I have ever heard. Herb, btw, I spoke
>>> with Ron
>>> >> >> Phillips on the phone last night and he sends you his regards.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Steve Welgoss
>>> >> >> Long Island, NY
>>> >> >> bassoon@-----.com
>>> >> >> www.welgoss.com
>>> >> >> 917-572-6667
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>> >> >> From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
>>> >> >> Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
>>> >> >> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:28:27 -0700
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> Harold,
>>> >> >>> I am not a musicologist by any means, and I do agree with your
>>> idea of
>>> >> >>> personalization of cadenzas. For Mozart's bassoon concerto we
>>> >> have the Ibert
>>> >> >>> set of cadenzas, which I believe to be quite pretty. Oubradous
>>> >> used them on
>>> >> >>> his recording, and I have not heard them since. A pity. Unless
>>> >> the composer
>>> >> >>> wrote the intended cadenza, I think we should be free to play
>>> >> any style, as
>>> >> >>> long as it relates to the concerto itself. Eg using material from the
>>> >> >>> movements.
>>> >> >>> Good luck. I will be interested in the responses.
>>> >> >>> Best,
>>> >> >>> Herb
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> On 8/9/06 2:17 AM, "harold emert" <harold@-----.br> wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> Dear List (which is Not going out of business):
>>> >> >>>> This habit/vice(?) developed over the years of writing about
>>> what I am
>>> >> >>>> studying and asking others for suggestions is difficult to kick.
>>> >> >>>> I find myself studying for performance this week the Mozart oboe
>>> >> >>>> Quartet --the fourth time I do it over the years.But Mozart being
>>> >> >>>> Mozart,there are always queries in addition to the preparation
>>> >> of miniscule
>>> >> >>>> details.
>>> >> >>>> Studying the arrangement for oboe and piano called
>>> >> "Concertino"by Southern
>>> >> >>>> Music,I am, convinced that the grace notes or measures 30 and 43
>>> are g
>>> >> >>>> naturals and not g#,as indicated in the part because of the string
>>> >> >>>> parts.Why?Because the g natural fits in better with the harmonies.
>>> >> >>>> I also tend to agree with Alex Klein who observed in Muncie
>>> at his
>>> >> >>>> master class that Mozart composed this hectic movement for the
>>> >> >>>> "mad"character of oboist Ramm--therefore explaining the
>>> "crazy"jumps for
>>> >> >>>> this epoch.
>>> >> >>>> The second movement's Cadenza is another query on my mind. I
>>> >> once performed
>>> >> >>>> as an orchestral member with a group of Brazilian
>>> >> chorinho(sort of but not
>>> >> >>>> local blues) musicians performing Mozart and their cadenzas included
>>> >> >>>> excerpts from Chorinhos.Why not personalize the Cadenza? (Once
>>> heard a
>>> >> >>>> twelve tone Cadenza for the Mozart flute concerto!)
>>> >> >>>> The two recordings I have are by Holliger and Goosens,but
>>> >> would appreciate
>>> >> >>>> hearing about whatever recordings you might prefer and why.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Best wishes as I await not only answers(?) but new topics on
>>> >> this List which
>>> >> >>>> remains ,
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Harold Emert
>>> >> >>>> Rio-Brazil
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
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