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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000086.txt from 2006/08

From: Arri Bachrach <abachrach@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Mozart Oboe Quartet
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 15:22:03 -0400

Steve,

And if you believe that the Hezballah and Iran are positive factors for the
good of the world you will rise even higher in Lurie's estimation........

AB

>>I dont think Condi and I would be natural pals.
>>
>>Steve
>
>Very good,Steve! You have already gone way up in my estimation!
>
>David
>
>
>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>From: David Lurie <klingsor@-----.com>
>>Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
>>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:41:04 -0400
>>
>> >Hi Steve
>> >
>> >I do like the political imagination expressed here. While anything
>> >would be better than the senseless destruction that is currently
>> >going on in Lebanon, why don't you give all of these ideas to Condi
>> >Rice for her to apply?
>> >
>> >David
>> >
>> >At 03:06 PM 8/9/2006, you wrote:
>> >>I was actually only talking about the Bassoon concerto. However,
>> >>you raise some other interesting thoughts. I was wondering this
>> >>week if we dropped thousands of bassoons and reedmaking kits on
>> >>Israel and the Hezboullah wouldn't they be too busy making reeds and
>> >>learning the Mozart Concerto to bomb each other? Also, bassoonists
>> >>are of such good nature that becoming bassoonists might transform
>> >>both sides into loving neighbors. If we dropped oboes, I am sure it
>> >>would only escalate the conflict (teeeheeee)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Steve
>> >>
>> >>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> >>From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
>> >>Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
>> >>Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:16:57 -0700
>> >>
>> >> >Thanks, it has been a long time since I saw Ron.
>> >> >I too like Garfield's cadenzas, Turkovic's recorded cadenza,
>> Guetter's and,
>> >> >Karol Bydlo's cadenzas, and I also like Ibert's little gizmo. I don't
>> >> >necessarily prefer the Ibert, but I don't agree with the uptight
>> assertion
>> >> >that it is "inappropriate". Inappropriate for what reason? Pedantry (a
>> >> >virulent disease of educators, since it eliminates the need for actual
>> >> >thinking) has never been my favorite retreat; I even allow for a little
>> >> >vibrato in French horn playing, and I love a little of it in clarinet
>> >> >playing. He's not my favorite (prefer Harold Wright) but I think
>> Stolzman
>> >> >has a lot to offer in his rather romantic interpretation of Mozart.
>> >> >Does anyone see the hypocrisy in the "progressive liberal" attacking
>> >> >conservatism, yet maintaining "hidebound" insistence on his own
>> canon? (Thou
>> >> >shalt allow the government, or rigid convention to rule your life...thou
>> >> >shalt not cut a single tree, nor bore a hole in search of oil. Thou
>> shalt
>> >> >not vary from the style of the period when you play your "moment" in a
>> >> >concerto performance.) Yuk! I prefer the freedom of total (very
>> idealistic,
>> >> >I know) self-determinism, while seeking civil agreement through law.
>> >> >Sorry for the rant,
>> >> >Herb
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >On 8/9/06 8:44 AM, "Steve Welgoss" <bassoon@-----.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Re Mozart Bassoon Concerto Cadenzas. I prefer the Garfield
>> >> cadenzas (and his
>> >> >> recording) to anything else I have ever heard. Herb, btw, I spoke
>> with Ron
>> >> >> Phillips on the phone last night and he sends you his regards.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Steve Welgoss
>> >> >> Long Island, NY
>> >> >> bassoon@-----.com
>> >> >> www.welgoss.com
>> >> >> 917-572-6667
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> >> >> From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
>> >> >> Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
>> >> >> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:28:27 -0700
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Harold,
>> >> >>> I am not a musicologist by any means, and I do agree with your
>> idea of
>> >> >>> personalization of cadenzas. For Mozart's bassoon concerto we
>> >> have the Ibert
>> >> >>> set of cadenzas, which I believe to be quite pretty. Oubradous
>> >> used them on
>> >> >>> his recording, and I have not heard them since. A pity. Unless
>> >> the composer
>> >> >>> wrote the intended cadenza, I think we should be free to play
>> >> any style, as
>> >> >>> long as it relates to the concerto itself. Eg using material from the
>> >> >>> movements.
>> >> >>> Good luck. I will be interested in the responses.
>> >> >>> Best,
>> >> >>> Herb
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 8/9/06 2:17 AM, "harold emert" <harold@-----.br> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> Dear List (which is Not going out of business):
>> >> >>>> This habit/vice(?) developed over the years of writing about
>> what I am
>> >> >>>> studying and asking others for suggestions is difficult to kick.
>> >> >>>> I find myself studying for performance this week the Mozart oboe
>> >> >>>> Quartet --the fourth time I do it over the years.But Mozart being
>> >> >>>> Mozart,there are always queries in addition to the preparation
>> >> of miniscule
>> >> >>>> details.
>> >> >>>> Studying the arrangement for oboe and piano called
>> >> "Concertino"by Southern
>> >> >>>> Music,I am, convinced that the grace notes or measures 30 and 43
>> are g
>> >> >>>> naturals and not g#,as indicated in the part because of the string
>> >> >>>> parts.Why?Because the g natural fits in better with the harmonies.
>> >> >>>> I also tend to agree with Alex Klein who observed in Muncie
>> at his
>> >> >>>> master class that Mozart composed this hectic movement for the
>> >> >>>> "mad"character of oboist Ramm--therefore explaining the
>> "crazy"jumps for
>> >> >>>> this epoch.
>> >> >>>> The second movement's Cadenza is another query on my mind. I
>> >> once performed
>> >> >>>> as an orchestral member with a group of Brazilian
>> >> chorinho(sort of but not
>> >> >>>> local blues) musicians performing Mozart and their cadenzas included
>> >> >>>> excerpts from Chorinhos.Why not personalize the Cadenza? (Once
>> heard a
>> >> >>>> twelve tone Cadenza for the Mozart flute concerto!)
>> >> >>>> The two recordings I have are by Holliger and Goosens,but
>> >> would appreciate
>> >> >>>> hearing about whatever recordings you might prefer and why.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Best wishes as I await not only answers(?) but new topics on
>> >> this List which
>> >> >>>> remains ,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Harold Emert
>> >> >>>> Rio-Brazil
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
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