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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000085.txt from 2006/08

From: David Lurie <klingsor@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Mozart Oboe Quartet
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 15:11:58 -0400

At 02:22 PM 8/10/2006, you wrote:
>I dont think Condi and I would be natural pals.
>
>Steve

Very good,Steve! You have already gone way up in my estimation!

David

>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: David Lurie <klingsor@-----.com>
>Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:41:04 -0400
>
> >Hi Steve
> >
> >I do like the political imagination expressed here. While anything
> >would be better than the senseless destruction that is currently
> >going on in Lebanon, why don't you give all of these ideas to Condi
> >Rice for her to apply?
> >
> >David
> >
> >At 03:06 PM 8/9/2006, you wrote:
> >>I was actually only talking about the Bassoon concerto. However,
> >>you raise some other interesting thoughts. I was wondering this
> >>week if we dropped thousands of bassoons and reedmaking kits on
> >>Israel and the Hezboullah wouldn't they be too busy making reeds and
> >>learning the Mozart Concerto to bomb each other? Also, bassoonists
> >>are of such good nature that becoming bassoonists might transform
> >>both sides into loving neighbors. If we dropped oboes, I am sure it
> >>would only escalate the conflict (teeeheeee)
> >>
> >>
> >>Steve
> >>
> >>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >>From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
> >>Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
> >>Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:16:57 -0700
> >>
> >> >Thanks, it has been a long time since I saw Ron.
> >> >I too like Garfield's cadenzas, Turkovic's recorded cadenza,
> Guetter's and,
> >> >Karol Bydlo's cadenzas, and I also like Ibert's little gizmo. I don't
> >> >necessarily prefer the Ibert, but I don't agree with the
> uptight assertion
> >> >that it is "inappropriate". Inappropriate for what reason? Pedantry (a
> >> >virulent disease of educators, since it eliminates the need for actual
> >> >thinking) has never been my favorite retreat; I even allow for a little
> >> >vibrato in French horn playing, and I love a little of it in clarinet
> >> >playing. He's not my favorite (prefer Harold Wright) but I think Stolzman
> >> >has a lot to offer in his rather romantic interpretation of Mozart.
> >> >Does anyone see the hypocrisy in the "progressive liberal" attacking
> >> >conservatism, yet maintaining "hidebound" insistence on his own
> canon? (Thou
> >> >shalt allow the government, or rigid convention to rule your life...thou
> >> >shalt not cut a single tree, nor bore a hole in search of oil. Thou shalt
> >> >not vary from the style of the period when you play your "moment" in a
> >> >concerto performance.) Yuk! I prefer the freedom of total
> (very idealistic,
> >> >I know) self-determinism, while seeking civil agreement through law.
> >> >Sorry for the rant,
> >> >Herb
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On 8/9/06 8:44 AM, "Steve Welgoss" <bassoon@-----.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Re Mozart Bassoon Concerto Cadenzas. I prefer the Garfield
> >> cadenzas (and his
> >> >> recording) to anything else I have ever heard. Herb, btw, I
> spoke with Ron
> >> >> Phillips on the phone last night and he sends you his regards.
> >> >>
> >> >> Steve Welgoss
> >> >> Long Island, NY
> >> >> bassoon@-----.com
> >> >> www.welgoss.com
> >> >> 917-572-6667
> >> >>
> >> >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >> >> From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
> >> >> Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
> >> >> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:28:27 -0700
> >> >>
> >> >>> Harold,
> >> >>> I am not a musicologist by any means, and I do agree with your idea of
> >> >>> personalization of cadenzas. For Mozart's bassoon concerto we
> >> have the Ibert
> >> >>> set of cadenzas, which I believe to be quite pretty. Oubradous
> >> used them on
> >> >>> his recording, and I have not heard them since. A pity. Unless
> >> the composer
> >> >>> wrote the intended cadenza, I think we should be free to play
> >> any style, as
> >> >>> long as it relates to the concerto itself. Eg using material from the
> >> >>> movements.
> >> >>> Good luck. I will be interested in the responses.
> >> >>> Best,
> >> >>> Herb
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 8/9/06 2:17 AM, "harold emert" <harold@-----.br> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Dear List (which is Not going out of business):
> >> >>>> This habit/vice(?) developed over the years of writing
> about what I am
> >> >>>> studying and asking others for suggestions is difficult to kick.
> >> >>>> I find myself studying for performance this week the Mozart oboe
> >> >>>> Quartet --the fourth time I do it over the years.But Mozart being
> >> >>>> Mozart,there are always queries in addition to the preparation
> >> of miniscule
> >> >>>> details.
> >> >>>> Studying the arrangement for oboe and piano called
> >> "Concertino"by Southern
> >> >>>> Music,I am, convinced that the grace notes or measures 30
> and 43 are g
> >> >>>> naturals and not g#,as indicated in the part because of the string
> >> >>>> parts.Why?Because the g natural fits in better with the harmonies.
> >> >>>> I also tend to agree with Alex Klein who observed in
> Muncie at his
> >> >>>> master class that Mozart composed this hectic movement for the
> >> >>>> "mad"character of oboist Ramm--therefore explaining the
> "crazy"jumps for
> >> >>>> this epoch.
> >> >>>> The second movement's Cadenza is another query on my mind. I
> >> once performed
> >> >>>> as an orchestral member with a group of Brazilian
> >> chorinho(sort of but not
> >> >>>> local blues) musicians performing Mozart and their cadenzas included
> >> >>>> excerpts from Chorinhos.Why not personalize the Cadenza?
> (Once heard a
> >> >>>> twelve tone Cadenza for the Mozart flute concerto!)
> >> >>>> The two recordings I have are by Holliger and Goosens,but
> >> would appreciate
> >> >>>> hearing about whatever recordings you might prefer and why.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Best wishes as I await not only answers(?) but new topics on
> >> this List which
> >> >>>> remains ,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Harold Emert
> >> >>>> Rio-Brazil
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
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