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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000080.txt from 2006/08
From: David Lurie <klingsor@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Mozart Oboe Quartet
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 21:38:51 -0400
I vote for the nano-tubes.
At 03:18 PM 8/9/2006, you wrote:
>Right on brother! With the Jewish talent for discovery and invention, who
>knows if we would gain a great new reed design based on quantum or string or
>nano tube theory.
>Herb
>
>
>On 8/9/06 12:06 PM, "Steve Welgoss" <bassoon@-----.com> wrote:
>
> > I was actually only talking about the Bassoon concerto. However, you raise
> > some other interesting thoughts. I was wondering this week if we dropped
> > thousands of bassoons and reedmaking kits on Israel and the Hezboullah
> > wouldn't they be too busy making reeds and learning the Mozart Concerto to
> > bomb each other? Also, bassoonists are of such good nature that becoming
> > bassoonists might transform both sides into loving neighbors. If we dropped
> > oboes, I am sure it would only escalate the conflict (teeeheeee)
> >
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
> > Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
> > Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:16:57 -0700
> >
> >> Thanks, it has been a long time since I saw Ron.
> >> I too like Garfield's cadenzas, Turkovic's recorded cadenza,
> Guetter's and,
> >> Karol Bydlo's cadenzas, and I also like Ibert's little gizmo. I don't
> >> necessarily prefer the Ibert, but I don't agree with the uptight assertion
> >> that it is "inappropriate". Inappropriate for what reason? Pedantry (a
> >> virulent disease of educators, since it eliminates the need for actual
> >> thinking) has never been my favorite retreat; I even allow for a little
> >> vibrato in French horn playing, and I love a little of it in clarinet
> >> playing. He's not my favorite (prefer Harold Wright) but I think Stolzman
> >> has a lot to offer in his rather romantic interpretation of Mozart.
> >> Does anyone see the hypocrisy in the "progressive liberal" attacking
> >> conservatism, yet maintaining "hidebound" insistence on his own
> canon? (Thou
> >> shalt allow the government, or rigid convention to rule your life...thou
> >> shalt not cut a single tree, nor bore a hole in search of oil. Thou shalt
> >> not vary from the style of the period when you play your "moment" in a
> >> concerto performance.) Yuk! I prefer the freedom of total (very
> idealistic,
> >> I know) self-determinism, while seeking civil agreement through law.
> >> Sorry for the rant,
> >> Herb
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/9/06 8:44 AM, "Steve Welgoss" <bassoon@-----.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Re Mozart Bassoon Concerto Cadenzas. I prefer the Garfield cadenzas (and
> >>> his
> >>> recording) to anything else I have ever heard. Herb, btw, I
> spoke with Ron
> >>> Phillips on the phone last night and he sends you his regards.
> >>>
> >>> Steve Welgoss
> >>> Long Island, NY
> >>> bassoon@-----.com
> >>> www.welgoss.com
> >>> 917-572-6667
> >>>
> >>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >>> From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
> >>> Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
> >>> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:28:27 -0700
> >>>
> >>>> Harold,
> >>>> I am not a musicologist by any means, and I do agree with your idea of
> >>>> personalization of cadenzas. For Mozart's bassoon concerto we have the
> >>>> Ibert
> >>>> set of cadenzas, which I believe to be quite pretty. Oubradous
> used them on
> >>>> his recording, and I have not heard them since. A pity. Unless
> the composer
> >>>> wrote the intended cadenza, I think we should be free to play
> any style, as
> >>>> long as it relates to the concerto itself. Eg using material from the
> >>>> movements.
> >>>> Good luck. I will be interested in the responses.
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Herb
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/9/06 2:17 AM, "harold emert" <harold@-----.br> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Dear List (which is Not going out of business):
> >>>>> This habit/vice(?) developed over the years of writing about what I am
> >>>>> studying and asking others for suggestions is difficult to kick.
> >>>>> I find myself studying for performance this week the Mozart oboe
> >>>>> Quartet --the fourth time I do it over the years.But Mozart being
> >>>>> Mozart,there are always queries in addition to the preparation of
> >>>>> miniscule
> >>>>> details.
> >>>>> Studying the arrangement for oboe and piano called "Concertino"by
> >>>>> Southern
> >>>>> Music,I am, convinced that the grace notes or measures 30 and 43 are g
> >>>>> naturals and not g#,as indicated in the part because of the string
> >>>>> parts.Why?Because the g natural fits in better with the harmonies.
> >>>>> I also tend to agree with Alex Klein who observed in Muncie at his
> >>>>> master class that Mozart composed this hectic movement for the
> >>>>> "mad"character of oboist Ramm--therefore explaining the
> "crazy"jumps for
> >>>>> this epoch.
> >>>>> The second movement's Cadenza is another query on my mind. I once
> >>>>> performed
> >>>>> as an orchestral member with a group of Brazilian
> chorinho(sort of but not
> >>>>> local blues) musicians performing Mozart and their cadenzas included
> >>>>> excerpts from Chorinhos.Why not personalize the Cadenza? (Once heard a
> >>>>> twelve tone Cadenza for the Mozart flute concerto!)
> >>>>> The two recordings I have are by Holliger and Goosens,but would
> >>>>> appreciate
> >>>>> hearing about whatever recordings you might prefer and why.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best wishes as I await not only answers(?) but new topics on this List
> >>>>> which
> >>>>> remains ,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Harold Emert
> >>>>> Rio-Brazil
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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