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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000070.txt from 2006/08
From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Mozart Oboe Quartet
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:18:44 -0400
Thanks, it has been a long time since I saw Ron.
I too like Garfield's cadenzas, Turkovic's recorded cadenza, Guetter's and,
Karol Bydlo's cadenzas, and I also like Ibert's little gizmo. I don't
necessarily prefer the Ibert, but I don't agree with the uptight assertion
that it is "inappropriate". Inappropriate for what reason? Pedantry (a
virulent disease of educators, since it eliminates the need for actual
thinking) has never been my favorite retreat; I even allow for a little
vibrato in French horn playing, and I love a little of it in clarinet
playing. He's not my favorite (prefer Harold Wright) but I think Stolzman
has a lot to offer in his rather romantic interpretation of Mozart.
Does anyone see the hypocrisy in the "progressive liberal" attacking
conservatism, yet maintaining "hidebound" insistence on his own canon? (Thou
shalt allow the government, or rigid convention to rule your life...thou
shalt not cut a single tree, nor bore a hole in search of oil. Thou shalt
not vary from the style of the period when you play your "moment" in a
concerto performance.) Yuk! I prefer the freedom of total (very idealistic,
I know) self-determinism, while seeking civil agreement through law.
Sorry for the rant,
Herb
On 8/9/06 8:44 AM, "Steve Welgoss" <bassoon@-----.com> wrote:
> Re Mozart Bassoon Concerto Cadenzas. I prefer the Garfield cadenzas (and his
> recording) to anything else I have ever heard. Herb, btw, I spoke with Ron
> Phillips on the phone last night and he sends you his regards.
>
> Steve Welgoss
> Long Island, NY
> bassoon@-----.com
> www.welgoss.com
> 917-572-6667
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> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
> Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:28:27 -0700
>
>> Harold,
>> I am not a musicologist by any means, and I do agree with your idea of
>> personalization of cadenzas. For Mozart's bassoon concerto we have the Ibert
>> set of cadenzas, which I believe to be quite pretty. Oubradous used them on
>> his recording, and I have not heard them since. A pity. Unless the composer
>> wrote the intended cadenza, I think we should be free to play any style, as
>> long as it relates to the concerto itself. Eg using material from the
>> movements.
>> Good luck. I will be interested in the responses.
>> Best,
>> Herb
>>
>>
>> On 8/9/06 2:17 AM, "harold emert" <harold@-----.br> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear List (which is Not going out of business):
>>> This habit/vice(?) developed over the years of writing about what I am
>>> studying and asking others for suggestions is difficult to kick.
>>> I find myself studying for performance this week the Mozart oboe
>>> Quartet --the fourth time I do it over the years.But Mozart being
>>> Mozart,there are always queries in addition to the preparation of miniscule
>>> details.
>>> Studying the arrangement for oboe and piano called "Concertino"by Southern
>>> Music,I am, convinced that the grace notes or measures 30 and 43 are g
>>> naturals and not g#,as indicated in the part because of the string
>>> parts.Why?Because the g natural fits in better with the harmonies.
>>> I also tend to agree with Alex Klein who observed in Muncie at his
>>> master class that Mozart composed this hectic movement for the
>>> "mad"character of oboist Ramm--therefore explaining the "crazy"jumps for
>>> this epoch.
>>> The second movement's Cadenza is another query on my mind. I once performed
>>> as an orchestral member with a group of Brazilian chorinho(sort of but not
>>> local blues) musicians performing Mozart and their cadenzas included
>>> excerpts from Chorinhos.Why not personalize the Cadenza? (Once heard a
>>> twelve tone Cadenza for the Mozart flute concerto!)
>>> The two recordings I have are by Holliger and Goosens,but would appreciate
>>> hearing about whatever recordings you might prefer and why.
>>>
>>> Best wishes as I await not only answers(?) but new topics on this List which
>>> remains ,
>>>
>>> Harold Emert
>>> Rio-Brazil
>>>
>>>
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