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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000012.txt from 2006/06

From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Question for Herb...
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:13:40 -0400

1:100 Clorox is probably completely effective on reeds and certainly would
taste4 better. We used 1:10 in the dental office for a wipe down of flat
surfaces. Zephiran would be OK as we used it in dentistry for many years. I=
t
is not terribly reliable as it is inactivated by some proteins and it loses
strength in time (?) that is pretty much what barbers use to "sterilize"
combs and shears.
Good Haiku.
Herb

On 6/6/06 3:00 AM, "Rhondda May" <rmay@-----.com> wrote:

> Plain old Clorox; who'd'a thunk it?
> I used to use something called Zephiran choride (sp?) way back in the
> late '80's; nothing particularly satisfactory since.
> Back during our little SARS crisis in 2003, there were public service
> announcements all over the local TV channels about "1:99", the
> recommended admixture for surfaces in one's home.
> I composed the following, which sadly did NOT win the SARS haiku
> competition in our local paper:
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> One to ninety-nine-
> Cleanse, o cleanse my humble flat,
> Clorox and water.
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> On 5 Jun 06, at 8:04 AM, herb fawcett wrote:
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>> Jim,
>> You may not know I was exiled by Ishikawa for insulting him when I
>> warned
>> Jon Dlouhy that censorship was indeed a concern on the list. Because I
>> replied to Ishikawa's pernicious ruling by suggesting that he was more
>> than
>> a little "up-tight", he had Nancy A King unsubscribe me permanently. I
>> am
>> pursuing the issue with the University that hosts the list. Have you
>> ever
>> met this guy? No one seems to like him.
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>> Peridex (CHX) is probably best used in an undiluted form. That can get
>> expensive. Your dentists concern about staining can be explained away
>> by the
>> chemistry of its staining.
>> CHX binds to the proteins of dental plaque or pellicle, thereby
>> increasing
>> its "bioavailability" or the longevity of its effectiveness. While so
>> bound,
>> it also "fixes" iron salts from the saliva into those proteins,
>> possibly
>> causing a light stain on the teeth with repeated use. It polishes off
>> easily, but in some people it can look dark, with a trace of orange
>> (rust)
>> color (with repeated use). That is not going to happen on a reed, and
>> if it
>> did after repeated use, it is not very noticeable. I have not seen it.
>> It's
>> much more acceptable than Herpes or some of the other nasty crud in the
>> world.
>> CHX does have an amazing kill potential, and it is not necessary to
>> change
>> the stuff each time it is used. I fill a shot glass, and I change it
>> once a
>> week. I only have a couple of students. If your bottle is the usual
>> 16oz you
>> can see the cost for each shot glass. I usually dilute it 50%, figuring
>> there is no saliva to dilute it. A less costly source is Hibiclens, a
>> CHX
>> liquid soap for hand washing. It is less expensive, and much more
>> concentrated. You can use it by diluting to the same strength as
>> Peridex
>> with water. No flavoring is added, so it has its own peculiar taste,
>> but
>> before we had Peridex, many of us suggested that our patients use it
>> as a
>> rinse to clean up after minor periodontal procedures, or if they had
>> ANUG
>> ("trench mouth"). It is tolerable as a rinse, so it is not too bad as
>> a reed
>> dip.
>> The cheapest way is to dilute Clorox 1:10 with water. That dilution
>> will
>> kill all viruses on contact, so you do not need to soak a reed. That
>> way you
>> avoid the cellulose-dissolving effect of the stuff. It just doesn't
>> taste
>> very good, but rinses easily in water. This is also good stuff to flush
>> bocals.
>> I hope this helps.
>> Herb
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>> On 6/4/06 2:29 PM, "Chleo Jet" <chleojet@-----.com> wrote:
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>>> Sorry I can't seem to locate Herb Fawcett's direct
>>> e-mail address. Some time ago, I put out a query on
>>> both doublereed lists, regarding the best solution for
>>> "disinfecting" student/teacher reeds (when trying said
>>> reeds in lessons, etc.). Herb recommended a product,
>>> and I recently got a prescription from my dentist for
>>> "Peridex" (1 dispenser pack)- Herb, could you please
>>> e-mail me again and let me know the directions for
>>> using this, regarding student reeds, etc.. My dentist
>>> was concerned about possibly staining the reeds, but
>>> I'm sure you have the proper dosage, method for using
>>> this, so that no staining will occur. Thanks in
>>> advance for any response/help!
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>>> Alles Gute - Jim
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