Doublereed Archive - Posting 000009.txt from 2006/06
From: Rhondda May <rmay@-----.com> Subj: Re: [DR-L] Question for Herb... Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 06:02:25 -0400
Plain old Clorox; who'd'a thunk it?
I used to use something called Zephiran choride (sp?) way back in the=20
late '80's; nothing particularly satisfactory since.
Back during our little SARS crisis in 2003, there were public service=20
announcements all over the local TV channels about "1:99", the=20
recommended admixture for surfaces in one's home.
I composed the following, which sadly did NOT win the SARS haiku=20
competition in our local paper:
One to ninety-nine-
Cleanse, o cleanse my humble flat,
Clorox and water.
On 5 Jun 06, at 8:04 AM, herb fawcett wrote:
> Jim,
> You may not know I was exiled by Ishikawa for insulting him when I=20
> warned
> Jon Dlouhy that censorship was indeed a concern on the list. Because I
> replied to Ishikawa's pernicious ruling by suggesting that he was more=20=
> than
> a little "up-tight", he had Nancy A King unsubscribe me permanently. I=20=
> am
> pursuing the issue with the University that hosts the list. Have you=20=
> ever
> met this guy? No one seems to like him.
>
> Peridex (CHX) is probably best used in an undiluted form. That can get
> expensive. Your dentists concern about staining can be explained away=20=
> by the
> chemistry of its staining.
> CHX binds to the proteins of dental plaque or pellicle, thereby=20
> increasing
> its "bioavailability" or the longevity of its effectiveness. While so=20=
> bound,
> it also "fixes" iron salts from the saliva into those proteins,=20
> possibly
> causing a light stain on the teeth with repeated use. It polishes off
> easily, but in some people it can look dark, with a trace of orange=20
> (rust)
> color (with repeated use). That is not going to happen on a reed, and=20=
> if it
> did after repeated use, it is not very noticeable. I have not seen it.=20=
> It's
> much more acceptable than Herpes or some of the other nasty crud in =
the
> world.
> CHX does have an amazing kill potential, and it is not necessary to=20
> change
> the stuff each time it is used. I fill a shot glass, and I change it=20=
> once a
> week. I only have a couple of students. If your bottle is the usual=20
> 16oz you
> can see the cost for each shot glass. I usually dilute it 50%, =
figuring
> there is no saliva to dilute it. A less costly source is Hibiclens, a=20=
> CHX
> liquid soap for hand washing. It is less expensive, and much more
> concentrated. You can use it by diluting to the same strength as=20
> Peridex
> with water. No flavoring is added, so it has its own peculiar taste,=20=
> but
> before we had Peridex, many of us suggested that our patients use it=20=
> as a
> rinse to clean up after minor periodontal procedures, or if they had=20=
> ANUG
> ("trench mouth"). It is tolerable as a rinse, so it is not too bad as=20=
> a reed
> dip.
> The cheapest way is to dilute Clorox 1:10 with water. That dilution=20
> will
> kill all viruses on contact, so you do not need to soak a reed. That=20=
> way you
> avoid the cellulose-dissolving effect of the stuff. It just doesn't=20
> taste
> very good, but rinses easily in water. This is also good stuff to =
flush
> bocals.
> I hope this helps.
> Herb
>
>
> On 6/4/06 2:29 PM, "Chleo Jet" <chleojet@-----.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry I can't seem to locate Herb Fawcett's direct
>> e-mail address. Some time ago, I put out a query on
>> both doublereed lists, regarding the best solution for
>> "disinfecting" student/teacher reeds (when trying said
>> reeds in lessons, etc.). Herb recommended a product,
>> and I recently got a prescription from my dentist for
>> "Peridex" (1 dispenser pack)- Herb, could you please
>> e-mail me again and let me know the directions for
>> using this, regarding student reeds, etc.. My dentist
>> was concerned about possibly staining the reeds, but
>> I'm sure you have the proper dosage, method for using
>> this, so that no staining will occur. Thanks in
>> advance for any response/help!
>>
>> Alles Gute - Jim
>>
>> ************************
>> James Jeter, D.M.A.
>> NYC Bassoonist
>> http://www.westfieldnj.com/wso/jeter.htm
>>
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>> you do it."=C2 Mahatma Gandhi
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