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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000045.txt from 2006/02

From: "Geoff Pearce" <oboist2@-----.au>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] RE: Ray Still/Heinz Holliger... Favorites?
Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 02:33:59 -0500

It really goes to show that beauty of sound (like any other beauty) is in
the ear etc of the receiver. I think this sort of bears out what I have
been trying to get at. We all have our own idea of what constitutes a
beautiful sound - what is too dark for some, would appear to be lovely
and rounded, and likewise I have heard many superlatives given to players
that I would really not care to willingly listen to.

Speaking as a non-US member of this room, I know that most of the members
have grown up believing that this is the ideal, but please be understanding
of those members who have grown up with a different ideal. I dont believe
any one style is correct or should dominate, but rather that there is an
appreciation for all. Respectfully, I do know of non US members who have
left the fold of this great double reed list. because they believe that if
you are not of the US school, then your opinions have no value.

Personally I have felt this occasionally, but generally, I have found most
members are reasoably receptive to different ideas, and hope this will
continue in a world that today shows so much greed and intolerance.

This is the last I intend to offer on this subject (hoping that I have
neither offended or bored anyone) so wish you happy music making

Cheers
Geoff Pearce

-------Original Message-------

From: herb fawcett
Date: 02/04/06 17:11:08
To: doublereed@-----.org
Subject: Re: [DR-L] RE: Ray Still/Heinz Holliger... Favorites?

Bright /dark; thin /fat; loud/ soft; expressive/ dull. Aren't these all
Comparatives. Define please ...
When I hear what I have heard called a thin, wheezy, emasculated sound
Played on a very open and free blowing instrument, I wonder what it was thqt

Drove the performer to play that way, and it frequently came back to me that

It was what he had to offer, and thank you for sharing it. He stuck his neck

In the noose for long enough to play for us and expose himself to the cruel
Criticism of instant replay. They are wonderful and we should thank them for

Giving us that much of their valuable time.(except for a few bassoonists who

Have given a very distorted impression of what a bassoon is musically, way
Too frequently)
Sleep well,
Herb

On 2/3/06 10:26 PM, "Stephen Kaupiko" <musicman@-----.net> wrote:

> Really, I've only heard the bulk of these wonderful
> oboists in the last year or so and I've been playing
> for oboe 9 years already... Shame on me too. :)
>
> I like Allan Vogel's playing a great deal, but his
> tone is to an extreme dark side of oboe playing for my
> ears and such darkness is not generally to my liking,
> but his playing/musicality certainly makes up for
> that.
>
> I guess everyone hears something different and likes
> certain things that may not be the reason others like
> or dislikes them for.
>
> I'm sure there are those who wonder... "what
> darkness?", but lament on how bright some players are.
> ;)
>
> Regards,
> Stephen
>
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