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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000022.txt from 2006/02

From: "Geoff Pearce" <oboist2@-----.au>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] RE: Ray Still/Heinz Holliger
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 05:39:44 -0500

Its good that you can listen to oboists from different "Schools" -
personally I would never learn from anyone who told me never to buy a
recording of another oboist, no matter how bad they thought they were. I
had the priviledge of having learned for about 7 months from Jiri Tancibudek
(the dedicatee of the Martinu concerto, and the chief Oboe judge at the
Spring Festival in Prague until his death last year, for those who have
never heard of him). He was a humble man who taught his students to be
able to listen and appreciate all artists. Many of his best students
studied with Holliger and other great European players. Whilst he was not
particularly partial to the US school, he certainly did not discourage his
students from listening and experiencing them. Many of the other oboe
players I played with in Australia and New Zealand did. I used a relatively
long scrape, sometimes with windows, sometimes not, and have been
experimenting with reed scrapes all my life - One thing I have learned is
that a lot of it is in your head (at least as far as the sound you want to
make) - its obviously helped by what your reeds can do as far as
responsiveness and resistance is concerned, but if you dont have the
conception of what sound you want to make, you are beggared from the start.

I dont believe my sound was American, and it certainly was not English or
French, but I am pleased that I was encouraged to listen to different ways
of doing things, and generally have an appreciation for most artists - of
course I have my favourites, I would not be human or an intelligent
listener if I did not.

BTW I am sure Mr Holliger would be gratified to learn that you think he
plays "Quite well"!

Geoff Pearce
Oboe
Sydney

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From: Stephen Kaupiko
Date: 02/02/06 20:17:33
To: doublereed@-----.org
Subject: Re: [DR-L] RE: Ray Still/Heinz Holliger

What an interesting topic. I had the opportunity to
Study with a student of Ray Still for a short while
Not too long ago. On the subject of oboists to listen
To I was given a short list with Ray Still, Allan
Vogel, Alex Klein, and Gelato something or other, but
On top of that I was implicitly told NEVER to buy a CD
Of Heinz Holliger with the reason being that his tone
Was similar to that of a synthesizer.

In my search of oboe recordings I found I loved the
Playing of many oboists regardless of where they were
From. I particularly found a lovely little piece,
Cimarosa, quite fetching and looked into the oboist a
Bit. The oboist happened to be Pierre Pierlot, who I
Came to find out was Holliger's teacher.

Go fig.

I did eventually get to listen to Holliger and I find
He plays quite well. I would understand why those who
Prefer a dark full bodied timbre would be against it,
But it just a matter of individual taste. I'm sure
There are Holliger fans that might have some other
Oboist up their sleeves to suggest to their students
As an example of really bad timbre. Holliger just
Happens to be uber famous thorn towards those who
Prefer darker timbre and so is a popular example.

I just like a well performed piece. My favorite
Oboists sound nothing alike.

Regards,
Stephen

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