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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000001.txt from 2006/02

From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] RE: Ray Still/Heinz Holliger
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 03:01:08 -0500

What I heard of Mr. Still's remark was not purely a trivialization of Mr.
Holliger's work. It is undeniable that he is a virtuoso and possibly an
artist as well. What it sounded like was " I am unwilling to sell out that
easily". I know for a fact that I would prefer to hear Mr. Still play
anything, but then we each have our preferences. I don't really like the
sound of the Peking opera much either.
Herb

On 1/31/06 11:00 PM, "Isaac Bull" <contrareed@-----.ca> wrote:

> Hi there...
>
> Do agree with your point - it is about priorities and where each respective
> artist makes them...
>
> However re Mr. Still's comment, if he did make it as alleged, it is
> unfortunate that he chose to criticize someone who, although with different
> priorities than himself, nonetheless achieved a high level of artistry and
> international acclaim.
>
> Just because one has a different style / different priorities does not make
> them less of an artist, if they truly make music from their heart and soul.
>
> That is what makes forums like this one so valuable because various elements
> of double reed playing can be discussed while tolerating players of so many
> different levels, styles and backgrounds.
>
> Best wishes to all,
>
> Isaac
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rhondda May" <rmay@-----.com>
> To: <doublereed@-----.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [DR-L] RE: Ray Still/Heinz Holliger
>
>
>> No, it's also a matter of where a musician wants to put his time and
>> effort. For Mr. Still, the ability to wiggle one's fingers fast was not
>> what playing the oboe was about. The same goes for Mr. Bloom and many,
>> many other great oboists, American, English, European, whatever.
>>
>> It's really about the different personalities involved. It's one person
>> comparing another's priorities to his own and saying, "I don't understand
>> why that is his priority."
>>
>> You should not say such things about people who were giants in their time.
>> It's rude and very disrespectful. Yes, this is a flippant comment that
>> does not reflect well on the person who *allegedly* made it. But that does
>> not give you or anyone else on this list the right to insult Mr. Still.
>>
>> Your comments to not add anything to rational discourse.
>> Rhondda May
>> Hong Kong
>>
>> On 1 Feb 06, at 6:29 AM, Wai Kit Leung wrote:
>>
>>> Of course I know very well factors other than reeds affect the tone one
>>> produces on the oboe (or on the bassoon for that matter). Does that make
>>> Mr. Still any more capable of approaching Mr. Holliger's virtuosity on
>>> the oboe? Brighter tone --> faster technique? I don't think so.
>>>
>>> A bit of sour grape from a less capable (but by no means not good) oboist
>>> I suppose.
>>>
>>> Wai Kit Leung
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 07:25:40 -0800
>>>> To: <doublereed@-----.org>
>>>> From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [DR-L] Re: Tinny-Ness of gramophones
>>>> Message-ID: <C004C174.10655%herbgosia@-----.net>
>>>>
>>>> Wai Kit,
>>>> You know there is more to it than just the reed. Concept of sound, lip
>>>> pressure, tongue placement, breath control, etc. It all makes a
>>>> difference.
>>>> Herb
>>>>
>>>> On 1/31/06 5:52 AM, "Wai Kit Leung" <wkleung11@-----.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would be thrilled to send Mr. Still some light French reeds and
>>>> see if he
>>>>> could indeed play like Mr. Holliger (at least speed-wise).
>>>>>
>>>>> Wai Kit Leung
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:04:37 -0800
>>>>>> To: <doublereed@-----.org>
>>>>>> From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DR-L] Tinny-Ness of gramophones
>>>>>> Message-ID: <C003CD75.10590%herbgosia@-----.net>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I heard Ray Still comment on that fellow's playing once. He said,
>>>> "if I
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> willing to sound like that, I could also play all that stuff that
>>>> fast". If
>>>>>> not verbatim, it was very close to that.
>>>>>> Herb
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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