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From: Isaac Bull <contrareed@-----.ca>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] RE: Ray Still/Heinz Holliger
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 02:02:37 -0500

Hi there...

Do agree with your point - it is about priorities and where each respective
artist makes them...

However re Mr. Still's comment, if he did make it as alleged, it is
unfortunate that he chose to criticize someone who, although with different
priorities than himself, nonetheless achieved a high level of artistry and
international acclaim.

Just because one has a different style / different priorities does not make
them less of an artist, if they truly make music from their heart and soul.

That is what makes forums like this one so valuable because various elements
of double reed playing can be discussed while tolerating players of so many
different levels, styles and backgrounds.

Best wishes to all,

Isaac

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rhondda May" <rmay@-----.com>
To: <doublereed@-----.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [DR-L] RE: Ray Still/Heinz Holliger

> No, it's also a matter of where a musician wants to put his time and
> effort. For Mr. Still, the ability to wiggle one's fingers fast was not
> what playing the oboe was about. The same goes for Mr. Bloom and many,
> many other great oboists, American, English, European, whatever.
>
> It's really about the different personalities involved. It's one person
> comparing another's priorities to his own and saying, "I don't understand
> why that is his priority."
>
> You should not say such things about people who were giants in their time.
> It's rude and very disrespectful. Yes, this is a flippant comment that
> does not reflect well on the person who *allegedly* made it. But that does
> not give you or anyone else on this list the right to insult Mr. Still.
>
> Your comments to not add anything to rational discourse.
> Rhondda May
> Hong Kong
>
> On 1 Feb 06, at 6:29 AM, Wai Kit Leung wrote:
>
>> Of course I know very well factors other than reeds affect the tone one
>> produces on the oboe (or on the bassoon for that matter). Does that make
>> Mr. Still any more capable of approaching Mr. Holliger's virtuosity on
>> the oboe? Brighter tone --> faster technique? I don't think so.
>>
>> A bit of sour grape from a less capable (but by no means not good) oboist
>> I suppose.
>>
>> Wai Kit Leung
>>
>>>
>>> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 07:25:40 -0800
>>> To: <doublereed@-----.org>
>>> From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [DR-L] Re: Tinny-Ness of gramophones
>>> Message-ID: <C004C174.10655%herbgosia@-----.net>
>>>
>>> Wai Kit,
>>> You know there is more to it than just the reed. Concept of sound, lip
>>> pressure, tongue placement, breath control, etc. It all makes a
>>> difference.
>>> Herb
>>>
>>> On 1/31/06 5:52 AM, "Wai Kit Leung" <wkleung11@-----.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I would be thrilled to send Mr. Still some light French reeds and
>>> see if he
>>> > could indeed play like Mr. Holliger (at least speed-wise).
>>> >
>>> > Wai Kit Leung
>>> >
>>> >> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:04:37 -0800
>>> >> To: <doublereed@-----.org>
>>> >> From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [DR-L] Tinny-Ness of gramophones
>>> >> Message-ID: <C003CD75.10590%herbgosia@-----.net>
>>> >>
>>> >> I heard Ray Still comment on that fellow's playing once. He said,
>>> "if I
>>> >> was
>>> >> willing to sound like that, I could also play all that stuff that
>>> fast". If
>>> >> not verbatim, it was very close to that.
>>> >> Herb
>>> >>
>>
>>
>>
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