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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000092.txt from 2006/01

From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Re: Tinny-Ness of gramophones
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:26:54 -0500

Wai Kit,
You know there is more to it than just the reed. Concept of sound, lip
pressure, tongue placement, breath control, etc. It all makes a difference.
Herb

On 1/31/06 5:52 AM, "Wai Kit Leung" <wkleung11@-----.com> wrote:

> I would be thrilled to send Mr. Still some light French reeds and see if he
> could indeed play like Mr. Holliger (at least speed-wise).
>
> Wai Kit Leung
>
>> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:04:37 -0800
>> To: <doublereed@-----.org>
>> From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
>> Subject: Re: [DR-L] Tinny-Ness of gramophones
>> Message-ID: <C003CD75.10590%herbgosia@-----.net>
>>
>> I heard Ray Still comment on that fellow's playing once. He said, "if I
>> was
>> willing to sound like that, I could also play all that stuff that fast". If
>> not verbatim, it was very close to that.
>> Herb
>>
>> On 1/30/06 4:39 AM, "cflat" <cflat@-----.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I had heard of Heinz Holliger but never heard Heinz Holliger.
>>> About 4 or 5 months ago I bought one of those $5(US) CDs off of a
>>> dealer on Ebay to give him a listen. I popped it in the CD player
>>> in the truck on the way to work. At first, it was a little hard
>>> to listen to for several reasons. The sound was thinner than I am
>>> used to, the vibrato was so much more used and heavy, the attacks
>>> are very hard in places, and I had never heard Cimarosa concerto
>>> played so fast. No one could deny the technique though...just
>>> awesome. I left the CD in the truck and listened to it on the way
>>> to and from work and by the end of the week, the bright tone quit
>>> bothering me and started to sound "right" and I didn't notice the
>>> heavy attacks anymore, and the first movement in Cimarosa started
>>> to sound alright at the faster tempo. I had recalled a thread on
>>> this list many years ago discussing his playing and sound and I
>>> went back and looked it up. I couldn't hardly find a positive
>>> word and I can understand that with a heavily slanted US
>>> membership. I think I've learned to be more open about what
>>> is "right". I still listen to it quite a bit and really enjoy
>>> it. By the way, his playing of Donizetti's English Horn
>>> Concertino is just unbelievable!
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>> Charles
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>> From: barbara trautwein <mzeztee@-----.edu>
>>>
>>> Dear Geoff (and Herb!),
>>>
>>> Your messages are coming loud and clear and this particular
>>> dialogue has
>>> been wonderful to read!
>>>
>>> I was taught by first and second generation Tabuteau students and
>>> so was
>>> completely intolerant of any other "school" of oboe playing. My
>>> violinist husband bought me a Goosens recording of something and I
>>> just
>>> couldn't listen to it. I couldn't get to the musicality because I
>>> couldn't get past the sound. How dumb! He was able to identify
>>> artist
>>> violinists by their sounds but he was much more mature than I,
>>> embracing
>>> each for their strengths even if their sounds weren't to his
>>> taste. I
>>> think he says the same thing about the modern players . . .that
>>> they are
>>> amazing fiddlers but that they are hard to distinguish, one from
>>> another.
>>>
>>> When I was in college, I got to turn pages for the pianist who
>>> accompanied Reginald Kell when he played a recital at my school.
>>> Again,
>>> as someone who played clarinet before I played the oboe, I had
>>> trouble
>>> listening to the vibrato but I did manage to appreciate his
>>> artistry.
>>>
>>> Now, let me tell you about my four seasons as a Cleveland
>>> Orchestra
>>> subscriber when I heard Marc Lifschey play EVERY Saturday
>>> night. . . .
>>> .There are some players that when you hear them, you might be
>>> inspired
>>> to take your oboe and break it over your knee. When I heard
>>> Lifschey, I
>>> would race home, get out the oboe and try to figure out HOW he had
>>> done
>>> that magical phrase!. . . .sigh. . . .
>>>
>>> Right! MORE dialogue! MORE "thoughts and experiences" !
>>>
>>> 2 cents,
>>>
>>> Barbara
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent via the EV1 webmail system at mail.ev1.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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