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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000087.txt from 2004/08
From: "Angela Wells" <oneflute1oboe@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Re: Those awful Chinese instruments
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 02:18:47 -0400
I think I understand all of the positions here.
I'm practicing on my roommate's Loree for now because my Rigoutat is in the
shop. I can hardly STAND my roommate's oboe because it's so far from what
I'm used to. The sound is so different- overall, it's not as clear. The
pitch tendencies are a mess. The colors of the notes are all off, and the
response feels weird. As far as I know, no one- not her teacher or any of
our colleagues- consider this oboe the be a lemon.
Not all Lorees I've played are exactly like this one, but they all have
"furfy" tone and wierd colors and responses. Notes with a lot of keys
closed, especially Eb and Db, are always feel especially strange and sound
airy. I actually can't decide if they're more or less resistant than what
I'm used to. They're just not THERE all the way.
Not that I should complain, because she's being generous enough to let me
use her oboe. But I find it interesting that my colleagues tease me about
how I should "get a Loree, or at least any oboe from a more recent decade,"
yet I have such negative experiences with many oboes that meet both these
criterea.
A lot of people probably feel that a certain brand is the best in the world
because they have had experiences that led to that decision. If I suddenly
came across several thousand dollars to spend on an oboe, I would certainly
try some more Lorees, but I have a hard time seeing myself going in that
direction. Who knows how much Rigoutats have changed since the 70s.
My oboe isn't perfect. The pitch is sharp, and the G is sharper. Maybe we
all just get used to our oboes.
I also agree with the point made about Yamahas. I've never played any Yamaha
woodwind instrument that I liked. (Yes, I'm talking about their
"professional" models.)
I only dream about getting an opportunity to try a handful each of Marigaux
and Laubin oboes. Sigh.
:-)Angela:-)
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From: Geoffrey Bridge <geoffrey.bridge@-----.com>
Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
To: <doublereed@-----.org>
Subject: Re: [DR-L] Re: Those awful Chinese instruments
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 21:44:12 +0100
"the best oboes in the world" Bit of a sweeping statement.
All the superb professional oboists in the world who play on other
instruments than Loree are therefore missing out are they? I don't believe
so.
They too have tried everything going as well. Viz. Marigaux, Howarth
Rigoutat, Josef, Laubin etc. etc. The instrument that they choose suits them
and they may also believe that the maker is the "best in the world".
By what criteria are you measuring Loree as this "best in the world" make?
Certainly the scale can be poor with very flat low register, the response
uneven and also they can show problem notes just like any other maker. I
have tried many of the brand myself and know this to be true. If they were
the "best in the world" not one of their instruments would ever have a
problem. Or at least they wouldn't be released on the unsuspecting public if
they found them not up to a standard.
Having played on a make for a long number of years gets you used to the
brand. Sometimes and most usually - with any make - a particular specimen
has everything going for it and others can be poor. That is as true for
Loree as any of the others. You probably know the Loree so well that other
makes seem foreign to you and not as good as the oboe you are used to.
The best in the world is the one which has it all whoever made it. No maker
has that privilege YET.
Geoff bridge
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