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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000060.txt from 2004/06
From: herb fawcett <herbgosia@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Quotes and staples
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:01:01 -0400
I use 21ga wire under the wrapped knot for stability of the tube.
I wasn't aware that non-combatants were covered by the conventions, and BTW
our treatment of them is child's play compared to their treatment of us
don't you think? Not an excuse of course, but soldiers in war are sometimes
very angry.
Herb
> From: Nat Echols <echols@-----.edu>
> Reply-To: doublereed@-----.org
> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 14:52:32 -0700 (PDT)
> To: doublereed@-----.org
> Subject: Re: [DR-L] Quotes and staples
>
>> My understanding of the Geneva conventions is that they apply only to
>> military members of an opposing state. Terrorists are terrorists. Partisans
>> were shot on sight and these insurgents are not an organized militia
>> representing a state enemy.
>
> Correct, the conventions only apply to their signatories, and there are
> rules for conduct of war that both parties must adhere to. However, the
> administration has been attempting to weasel out of recognizing many other
> legal rights of the accused (US laws, primarily, including the Constitution),
> on the grounds that they just don't apply to our current situation. I
> think this has led to the confusion - and it's certainly reason enough to
> be worried about the treatment of military prisoners.
>
> As an aside, many of the prisoners at Abu Ghraib weren't even insurgents -
> they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, and were all thrown
> together. So they definitely were protected by the Conventions, since
> they weren't even combatants.
>
> Go rent the movie "Brazil" for a good overview of why this is a
> frightening precedent.
>
> On a reed-related note, do any bassonists have experience with wire gauges
> other than 22? I've heard you can change the character of the reed by
> using thinner or thicker wires in different places, but I never
> investigated this very far.
>
>
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