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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000071.txt from 2004/02
From: "Isaac Bull" <contrareed@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Conductors behaving badly
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 07:59:08 -0500
Hi there - I can relate to this topic as I have encountered conductors who
are like spoiled children at times, however there are also some players who
have pretty big egos as well. Sometimes players forget their place and
want too much say without enough "give" to the team effort that an orchestra
needs.
I believe playing in an orchestra demands, at least to a certain extent,
putting aside one's individual preferences in favour of a conductor and
colleagues, even moreso if you play in a section (ie in a position other
than principal). Flexibility and an open mind are good characteristics to
possess if you play in an orchestra.
Far too often I have found everyone condemns a conductor because it isn't
the way "they" would do it (either tempo, style etc.) however does this
really mean it is bad music making - maybe sometimes but not necessarily.
One doesn't have to make a lot of money to have a big ego. Perhaps part of
the problem in the music biz is people get defensive because they feel they
must defend their approach to things to prove a point, or simply defend
themselves to keep the engagements they have etc.
Just a few thoughts. This is an interesting thread.
Best regards,
Isaac
----- Original Message -----
From: "TC" <cui74@-----.com>
To: <doublereed-l@-----.edu>
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [DR-L] Conductors behaving badly
> " A good conductor is a dead conductor"
>
> A lot these so called "celebrity conductors" are ego driven a-holes,
because
> they 've been spoiled by players, orchestra owners, audiences.
> This is not something new to orchestral musicians, they wouldn't be like
> this if they make the same amount of money as the players do in the
> orchestra.
> Money and power corrupt people! Have we seen enough of these in politics?
>
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>
> Tong Cui
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>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "D Bogan" <dgbogan@-----.net>
> To: <idrs-l@-----.edu>
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 11:54 AM
> Subject: [DR-L] Conductors behaving badly
>
>
> > Perhaps some of you saw this.Is this an indication
> > that impresario conductors who abuse their players
> > will no longer be tolerated? As Martha Stewart would
> > say, "It's a good thing!"
> > Donna Bogan
> > Alice, TX
> >
> >
> >
> > Conductor Berates Audience, Musicians From The Stage -
> > Washington Post 02/14/04
> > http://www.artsjournal.com/music/redir/20040215-39479.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ====
> > Donna G. Bogan
> > Double Your Reeds and Double Your Music--
> > Oboe, English horn, and Bassoon
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