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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000085.txt from 2003/06

From: Kathryn Sleeper <KatSleeper@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Re: QOD
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 14:57:17 -0400

I took this to mean that once created, the art takes on a life and meaning
of its own and is no longer defined by the creator. Intent no longer
matters.

--Kat Sleeper

on 6/14/03 2:36 PM, PhilFrei@-----.com wrote:

> "The artist, like the God of the creation, remains within or behind or beyond
> or above his handiwork, invisible, refined out of existence, indifferent,
> paring his fingernails."
>
> -James Joyce (1882-1941) Irish author
> "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man," ch. 5 (1916)
>
>
> And then there are those who think the most important element of art is self
> expression. Or rabble rousing, or devotion, or partying...
>
> It seems to me Joyce hardly refined himself out of his own work. Was he being
> ironic, or just experiencing a lack of self awareness?
>