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Doublereed Archive - Posting 000025.txt from 2003/06
From: William R Brohinsky <onlyocelot@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [DR-L] Double Reed Family
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 07:31:58 -0400
Shawms, originally pitched in fifths,
bass F
tenor C
alto G
descant D
There are other sizes, but these are (were) the most common.
Now-a-days, modern massproduced reproductions are pitched
bass F
tenor C
alto F
descant/soprano C
making it a bit easier to switch between, and also avoiding the
questions of tuning. (this arrangement was recommended by Praetorius in
about 1620, but I don't think it was actually implemented until the
modern revival).
The Majors of the Renaissance winds:
Open reeds:
Dulcian/Curtal
Shawm/Bombard
Capped Reeds:
Krummhorn
Cornamuse
Rauchpfeife
Schryari
Racket
These all came in families like the shawms, were generally tuned in
fifths or fifths and forths (and are usually tuned in fifths and forths
as above in modern repros that can be afforded by most people).
As we get into the baroque, the number of instruments is pared down
considerably. The reedcapped instruments go out of musician's hands and
into the organ, where they don't really count for us anymore. The oboe
and bassoon family grow out of the idea if not the implementation of the
shawm and dulcian. More sizes are made, so that even in Praetorius' time
(which is arguably very-early-baroque) there are great quart and great
quint bassoons. The tenoroon is essentially the tenor dulcian, done up
in pieces like the bassoon (the dulcian was made as a single piece,
possibly with a removeable bell piece).
Missing from Frank's excellent list is the Oboe da caccia, which I
believe is pitched as the oboe d'amour, but since it's 5 minutes since I
should have left for work, that's a question that will wait.
There are also the russian bassoons, relatives of the ophacleide, which
are lip-reed instruments (brass-type mouthpiece) on a bassoon-like body.
Is this of interest? (Heavens forfend that we might open Doublereed-L to
brass players because their lip reed instruments use both lips!!)
raybro
Frank Jordan wrote:
>
> THE LEADS
> Oboe - Concert pitch
> English Horn - Key of F
> Bassoon - Concert Pitch
> Contrabassoon - written one octave higher
> THE EXTRAS
> Oboe D'Amour - Key of A
> Heckelphone/Bass Oboe - written one octave higher
> OBSOLETE
> Mussette
> Tenoroon
>
> Anyone know of more?
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:45 PM
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> Subject: [DR-L] Double Reed Family
>
> Does anyone know the full instrumentation of the double reed family and
> what keys they are in? Thanks in advance.
>
> Ryan
>
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